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    Can/will Power Basic product make an application for Windows CE
    PDAs? I would like to write one to accept a person's name,
    birthdate, and deathdate.

    Lance, I am losing hair trying to find a database app that will
    do this on a handheld. If none of the Power products can do this,
    could you suggest an application I might consider?

    Thank you.

    Robert

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  • #2
    WinCE runs on non-Intel CPU's, so PowerBASIC can't help here.

    I personally have nothing to do with handhelds (the closest I've been to them is looking at pictures of 'em in magazines!) so I'm not in any position to make recommendations. Unless someone else here can help, I'd suggest a web search with www.google.com

    Good luck!


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    • #3
      Not sure if this helps but I am writing mobile apps for the
      Pocket PC2002 OS and am using AppForge Mobile VB at http://www.appforge.com

      You need to check if Win CE is supported !

      Many thanks

      Reza

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      • #4
        We get a fair number of requests for PDA versions of PowerBASIC--
        it seems to interest more people than .NET, actually. It's on the
        wish list.

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        PowerBASIC Staff

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        • #5
          Tom, I appreciate that. Just to be clear, I wasn't asking for a
          PDA version of PowerBasic. I was hoping for a way to write an
          application in Power Basic and use it on the PDA.
          From Lance, I understand why this is not feasible.

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          • #6
            I have developed a couple of apps using a free download from the
            m$ site of Embedded Visual Basic. The package comes with a good
            emulator of pocket PC and full sdk's.

            All I can say is it does the job and give easy access to the CE api.

            One of the apps I did involved using an imported MS access2000 database
            which converted fairly easily to pocket access format (as long as the db is not too complex)

            anyway just thought I would mention it

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            Mark Baker
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            • #7
              <Copy from Mark>
              I have developed a couple of apps using a free download from the
              m$ site of Embedded Visual Basic. The package comes with a good
              emulator of pocket PC and full sdk's.
              <End>

              Mark- do have have the URL please? This sounds almost perfect!

              Thank you.

              Robert

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              • #8
                Robert
                http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/...mpositedoc.xml

                it is still free to download as is the c++ alternative.

                hope this helps



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                Mark Baker
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                • #9
                  Also check out the complete downloads for pocket pc
                  http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/pock...ds/default.asp

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                  Mark Baker
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                  • #10
                    Tom Hanlin mentioned .NET. This has nothing to do with PB/DOS, but a pb compiler (on any platform) targetting .NET's runtime and virtual machine would actually be really nice. With Ximian's mono project on Linux, this would allow PB to cover Windows and the rest of the world with the same product.

                    I also think that .NET will eventually become the app platform for MS's handheld platform. At 200-400 Mhz, a nice .NET vm should perform really well.


                    [This message has been edited by Michael Torrie (edited January 04, 2003).]

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                    • #11
                      The .NET runtime is a 20Mb+ overhead for every app that uses it... without counting how much memory is needed by the runtime, etc.

                      No matter how I (you) look at it, .NET is a bloat-ware platform, especially when compared to programming in a non-bloat language such as PowerBASIC.

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                      • #12
                        Lance, I beg to differ. You can say the same about java if you want, but the vm and runtime and special versions of the class libraries run just fine on very small devices.

                        Currently the mono implementation of .NET is far, far smaller than 20 MB. The MS .NET package may be 20 MB, but the CLR and class libraries I would guess are fairly small. Win32 itself is huge already. The .NET api is very clean and a big improvement and step forward for MS developers.

                        Anyway, .NET is a very appropriate platform for PB/CC and PB/DLL in the future and .NET *will* soon be a part of WinCE or whatever they call it these days. It's all part of the master plan...

                        (Whatever happened to PB's plans to write a java bytecode backend to their compiler? Years ago, PB Inc claimed that would be the next big thing.)


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                        [This message has been edited by Michael Torrie (edited January 06, 2003).]

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                        • #13
                          The mini-Windows camp has splintered in three directions: Windows CE,
                          Windows XP Embedded, and Pocket PC. None of these has been notably
                          successful, to date, but we watch developments with interest.

                          We do expect to have versions of PowerBASIC coming out for various
                          platforms. More, I can't say.

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