DOS Server with MS Network Client

[Gustavo Asplanatti]

Hi Herman

I am confused...
Does lsl work only with odi drivers?
ODI driver is not just for Novell?
Am I able to work with ODI drivers in MS Client 3.0?

I have tried lsl in autoexec.bat... No error, but the PC still lock up.

I have tried without qemm, same thing...

Thank four your help...

Any other idea ??


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Gustavo Asplanatti
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[Herman Kieskamp]

Originally posted by Herman Kieskamp:
Gustavo I miss the LSL in the autoexec.bat, that is a socket layer,
you need this if you want to bind more than 1 type of networking !
its lsl.com, that accepts in native mode 4 different layers !

Also your using Qemm, you to run optimize to make sure no network driver
is put in the wrong place by qemm !! Make sure it works without qemm first !!
Qemm can easily cause hangs. After having a good working situation without qemm,
add qemm, so you know it works, than you can fine tune with qemm !!

Herman.

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You gotta run, and don't loop back.

[Herman Kieskamp]

Gustavo I miss the LSL in the autoexec.bat, that is a socket layer,
you need this if you want to bind more than 1 type of networking !
its lsl.com, that accepts in native mode 4 different layers !

Herman.


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You gotta run, and don't loop back.

[Gustavo Asplanatti]

Hi Herman...

Thank for your reply!

Well, I will try to explain:

I need more info, what can you do and what can't you do ?

I believe that to answer your question, first I should you clarify
to you what it is what I need to make...

A - Send data from a PC that a program runs in PB DOS 3.5 to another PC
(Running Windows 2000/XP) through a LAN, this can make it with the
TCPABI library, using the NIC packet driver.
This is the DOS program, just if you wish to snoop!
http://www.computecsrl.com.ar/cptraf_english/cptraf.htm

B - To be able to access through that LAN to the files generated by the
DOS PC and to recover them.

OK, for the first problem can use the following thing:

Adding in the AUTOEXEC.BAT File:


RTSPKT 0x60 << NIC Packet Driver
SET IP=10.0.0.121
SET NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NTCPDRV


Working well !!!

For the second point, I use the MS Client 3.0 with the add on
Server capabilities, with only TCP/IP protocol.
This also works well. I can access the DOS PC disk and retrieve
data.

But, I need to use the two options as a whole!

So, I have tried to configure the MS Client 3.0 with TCP/IP and the
packet driver, but here the problems begin.

The DOS PC freeze when I try to access from other (Windows) PC.

The following are the main files that I use in this configuration:


PROTOCOL.INI

[network.setup]
version=0x3110
netcard=RTL8139,1,RTL8139,1
transport=tcpip,TCPIP
transport=pktdrv,pktdrv
lana0=RTL8139,1,tcpip
lana1=RTL8139,1,pktdrv

[TCPIP]
NBSessions=6
SubNetMask0=255 255 255 0
IPAddress0=10 0 0 121
DisableDHCP=1
DriverName=TCPIP$
BINDINGS=RTL8139
LANABASE=0

[protman]
DriverName=PROTMAN$
PRIORITY=MS$NDISHLP

[RTL8139]
DriverName=rtsnd$
Medium=_Auto

[pktdrv]
DriverName=PKTDRV$
BINDINGS=RTL8139
INTVEC=0x60
LANABASE=0

SYSTEM.INI

[network]
sizworkbuf=1498
filesharing=yes
printsharing=yes
autologon=yes
computername=DTC
lanroot=C:\NET
username=GUSTAVOA
workgroup=COMPUTEC
reconnect=yes
dospophotkey=N
lmlogon=0
logondomain=COMPUTEC
preferredredir=basic
autostart=
maxconnections=8

[network drivers]
netcard=rtsnd.dos
transport=dis_pkt9.dos,tcpdrv.dos,nemm.dos
devdir=C:\NET
LoadRMDrivers=yes

[Password Lists]
*Shares=C:\NET\Shares.PWL

[386enh]
TimerCriticalSection=5000
UniqueDosPSP=TRUE
PSPIncrement=2

AUTOEXEC.BAT

C:\NET\net initialize
@ECHO OFF
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 /LO C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE /X
PROMPT $p$g
PATH C:\NET;C:\DOS;C:\NC
SET TEMP=C:\DOS
C:\DOS\SHARE.EXE
C:\NET\netbind.com
C:\NET\umb.com
C:\NET\tcptsr.exe
C:\NET\tinyrfc.exe
C:\NET\nmtsr.exe
C:\NET\emsbfr.exe
C:\NET\net start server
SET IP=10.0.0.122
SET NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NTCPDRV

Note: I have tried o use the same IP(10.0.0.121).

Can you ping the pc's ?

Yes, but the system freeze..

You must make sure you have good tcp/ip stack, on top of that lays
the client(windows networking) side. But why using windows networking ?
Isn't tcp/ip itself good enough ?

Of course TCP/IP itself is good enough. If I could make both things at
the same time.

There is also a trumpet winsocket driver, have you tried that ?

Yes, I know... But I don't know very well how configuring it.

Another thing ...
I have proven to use MS Client 3.0 and Trumpet /packet
driver with 2 NICs... and all work well, in spite of using more (valuable) memory.
Of course that I would prefer to use a single NIC.

Thanks for your time!!!
If you need adicional information, please let me know...



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Gustavo Asplanatti
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[Herman Kieskamp]

I need more info, what can you do and what can't you do ?
Can you ping the pc's ?
You must make sure you have good tcp/ip stack, on top of that lays
the client(windows networking) side. But why using windows networking ?
Isn't tcp/ip itself good enough ?
There is also a trumpet winsocket driver, have you tried that ?

Herman.



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You gotta run, and don't loop back.

[Gustavo Asplanatti]

Herman:

I have installed the wfw311 and the TCP/IP-32, the system works well,
but I don't have very clear how can I add the trumpet socket driver
to be able to send data TCP/IP it has more than enough, just as I could
make with MS Client 3.0.

Are you able to help me?

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Gustavo Asplanatti
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[Herman Kieskamp]

Originally posted by Gustavo Asplanatti:
Hi Herman....
Thank for your reply, I am using a Realtek 8139D PCI 10/100...

In the Realtek site talk about NDIS2 driver for DOS, apparently
doesn't support NDIS 3... I will try another NIC...

And ... yes, it is a really old technology, but in my case the
application that run this PC should be dedicated and without
interruptions, I don't have another option that to use DOS....

Thank you....

So it seems that a pure dos environment only supports Ndis2, But
what about installing wfw311 ? Realtek have a ndis3 driver win windows
for workgroups, configurate a working network in wfw, go back to
Dos and issue "net start" command, this should load all network drivers
and give you connectable state ! Use the command "net ?" to see what
options are there ! If you need a wfw driver, give me a mail addrees and I'll send
it to you.

Good luck !

Herman.


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You gotta run, and don't loop back.

[Gustavo Asplanatti]

Hi Herman....
Thank for your reply, I am using a Realtek 8139D PCI 10/100...

In the Realtek site talk about NDIS2 driver for DOS, apparently
doesn't support NDIS 3... I will try another NIC...

And ... yes, it is a really old technology, but in my case the
application that run this PC should be dedicated and without
interruptions, I don't have another option that to use DOS....

Thank you....

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Gustavo Asplanatti
[email protected]

[Herman Kieskamp]

The NIC needs to support at least Ndis 3.0. Most times I found that
things did not work, were that NDIS 3.0 was not supported by the NIC.

WOW Trumpetsocket driver thats a long time ago for me, this was my first setup
for a tcp/ip stack, and my first internetconnection, brings back memories.

Succes.

Herman.


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You gotta run, and don't loop back.

[Gustavo Asplanatti]

Hi...

I am using TCPABI library from Gerhard Zugarek... I send TCP/IP
data thruogh the packet driver and NTCPDRV (DOS Trumpet ABI)...
Up to now... No problem... But I need retrieve some files from this
PC from other PC using MS Network Client 3.0, so I try to configurate
these two things (MS Network Client & Trumpet over packet driver)...
But I have not get them to work together. That is to say:

Network Client XOR Trumpet & Pktdrv

I follow the instruction write by Gerhard to configurate both things...

DOS machine with installed Network Client V3.0 for MSDOS or
MSDOS Workgroup-Add-On V3.11 ; for details see :

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...g/Dosclnt3.htm
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...g/Dosservr.htm

Because MS uses a NDIS Driver for the NIC, you need instead of a Packet Driver
DIS_PKT.DOS , which can be downloaded from e.g. :

http://dopey.rediris.es/ftp/pub/msdos/pktdrvr/

DIS_PKT.DOS is a so called "shim", which provides an Ethernet or a Token Ring
Packet Driver interface to programs built to operate over Packet Drivers, talks
to NDIS (3Com/Microsoft) and shares the NIC with NDIS users.

Copy DIS_PKT9.DOS and NTCPDRV.EXE to e.g. C:\NET .
Add this to PROTOCOL.INI:

[pktdrv]
DriverName=PKTDRV$
BINDINGS=EP325 <--- NDIS Driver of your NIC (e.g. EP325.DOS)
INTVEC=0x60

Add 'dis_pkt9.dos' to the line starting with 'transport=' in SYSTEM.INI

[network drivers]
netcard=ep325.dos
transport=ndishlp.sys,*netbeui,dis_pkt9.dos <--- add here
devdir=C:\NET
LoadRMDrivers=yes

Change the following lines according to your configuration and add them to e.g.
AUTOEXEC.BAT :

NET START SERVER <--- includes loading of dis_pkt9 shim
rem NET STOP <--- shim is still active
SET IP=169.254.0.16
SET NETMASK=255.255.0.0
C:\NET\NTCPDRV

Somebody that can help me?

Thanks....



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Gustavo Asplanatti
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