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**Bob Zale** · 27 May 2004, 08:28 AM

The short answer is no, absolutely not.

The person who owns the license to that compiler could sell/transfer it to you, but it is only valid upon registration and acceptance of the transfer by PowerBASIC Inc. Of course, that person would be giving up all rights to continue use of the software.

Regards,

Bob Zale
PowerBASIC Inc.

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**Robert Olsen** · 27 May 2004, 08:35 AM

Hi Bob.
Thanks for the reply.
It's been a while since they used this I guess since the program have and the laptop have been laying in storage for a long time.

What excactly is the actions they need to take in order to transfere the license to me?
I'm guessing this is some form of a commercial license since it is used by my own company.

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**Robert Olsen** · 27 May 2004, 08:38 AM

Quote "y my own company." should be my OLD company.

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**Robert Olsen** · 27 May 2004, 08:58 AM

Does the license follow the person/company or the installed computer?

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**Bob Zale** · 27 May 2004, 09:16 AM

A license to use PowerBASIC is owned by the person/entity who purchases the license. That license is issued for one single user. A unique serial number is provided to assist in identifying that user.

Regards,

Bob Zale
PowerBASIC Inc.

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**Robert Olsen** · 27 May 2004, 09:20 AM

OK, thanks.

How can I find the serial?
I've checked in the program itself but can't see anything there.
I'm guessing you'll want the serial to check the license state?

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**Tom Hanlin** · 27 May 2004, 10:36 AM

The serial number may be found on the installation floppies or download
confirmation email, as well as the product invoice. If you do not have
any of these, you will need to supply as much information as possible
(ordered when? by what company? ...etc) to help us look it up. Please
email mailto:[email protected][email protected]</A> .

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Tom Hanlin
PowerBASIC Staff

**Robert Olsen** · 27 May 2004, 10:45 AM

OK, thanks.
I'll do.

I'll give them a call and ask if they can dig that up for me.
I know they won't mind since they no longer use it.

But, what if they can't find the purchase date?
Can you find the license just by the company name?
The company has changed name three time the last 10 years and are going to change names again this summer due to another company has bought them up.

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**Brad D Byrne** · 27 May 2004, 10:58 AM

Robert, welcome

It seems like it might be a lot simpler to just buy a
new copy

besides, supporting PB, helps PB give us even Newer & Better
things for the already "World's Greatest Compilers"

Brad

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Borje's "Poff's" is likely the BEST tool for learning PB.. http://www.tolkenxp.com/pb
And a few PBTool's & Beginner Help:http://sweetheartgames.com/PBTools/JumpStart.html

**Robert Olsen** · 27 May 2004, 11:06 AM

Thanks Brad.
You might be right.
But it is still money, even though the DOS version is cheaper.
I already have licenses for iBasic, Visual DialogScript, PureBasic and a couple more I don't use anymore.
So I'd rather not spend more money they I have to
Anyways, I've been thinking about purchasing PB Win but I'm not sure if it is better than PureBasic.
Maybe a dumb question to ask here though :lol:

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**Brad D Byrne** · 27 May 2004, 11:19 AM

"... I've been thinking about purchasing PB Win but I'm not sure if it is better than PureBasic...."

hehe, Robert

If I hadn't found PB, and the tremedous knowlege base and support
from these Forums, I do believe that I would have quit programming..
even-though I had pretty solid Fortran foundation..
PowerBASIC is "REAL" stuff, no cutting corners!!
It's like night and day, the differance having the full control that PB offers...

Brad

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Washington DC Area
Borje's "Poff's" is likely the BEST tool for learning PB.. http://www.tolkenxp.com/pb
And a few PBTool's & Beginner Help:http://sweetheartgames.com/PBTools/JumpStart.html

**Robert Olsen** · 27 May 2004, 11:25 AM

He he he
I was expecting a reply like that.
But, when we're on that subject.
Name one or more things that you can do with PowerBASIC that can't be done with PureBasic?
Not starting any discussion about comparison, just curious

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**Brad D Byrne** · 27 May 2004, 11:43 AM

well Robert,

I do not know that much about PureBasic, but if you search the
Forums, there are many posts and discusion about the differances
from programmers who have used both, also I do know that there are
members at the Purebasic forum who seem pretty knowlegable..

but, "IMO" PowerBASIC is really an Assembler with some high-level support.. I am primarily into low-level graphics, (not DirectX or OpenGL) I need lower-level (more control) than they offer.. PowerBASIC provides all this, w/o having to use straight
Assembly... as one member once said:

he thinks that Purebasic is written in PowerBASIC... hehe

but, also PowerBASIC will force you into understanding Windows,
it does not have the pretty wrappers to shelter you from the
Nuts n' Bolts.. Once you've learned PowerBASIC you can pretty
much understand any code from any compiler, because you will have
learned the Mechanics..

Brad

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Washington DC Area
Borje's "Poff's" is likely the BEST tool for learning PB.. http://www.tolkenxp.com/pb
And a few PBTool's & Beginner Help:http://sweetheartgames.com/PBTools/JumpStart.html

**Robert Olsen** · 27 May 2004, 12:07 PM

How about compiled filesize?
Not sure if I've seen a compiled Power B program.
How big is a simple hello world console program?
PureBasic 3.91 wich is the latest beta can compile a program like that at a mear 4 kb.
And a simple Windows app will compile at around 5-6 kb.

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**Douglas C. Horner** · 27 May 2004, 12:42 PM

Not sure if I've seen a compiled Power B program.
How big is a simple hello world console program?
PureBasic 3.91 wich is the latest beta can compile a program like that at a mear 4 kb.
And a simple Windows app will compile at around 5-6 kb.

Errrrr mear 4K? How about 208 bytes in PBWin.

Doug

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[This message has been edited by Douglas C. Horner (edited May 27, 2004).]

**Robert Olsen** · 27 May 2004, 02:37 PM

208 bytes compiled?
You probably mean the source code

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**Clay Clear** · 27 May 2004, 02:40 PM

I tried it. The following PB/Win 7.04 code compiled to approximately
6 KB.

Code:

#COMPILE EXE
 
FUNCTION PBMAIN
    MSGBOX "Hello, world!"
END FUNCTION

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**Robert Olsen** · 27 May 2004, 04:39 PM

Thanks for that Clay.

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**Brad D Byrne** · 27 May 2004, 09:29 PM

Robert,

you want to be caucious comparing file size, I don't remember the
proper termonology, but it's my understanding that PB adds @4k
of overhead in the "??? section" .. so if you want more "real life" comparisons best to look at larger files...

as an industry standard PB does generate very small and very fast
optimized exes..

Brad

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Washington DC Area
Borje's "Poff's" is likely the BEST tool for learning PB.. http://www.tolkenxp.com/pb
And a few PBTool's & Beginner Help:http://sweetheartgames.com/PBTools/JumpStart.html

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