pb35 for dos still for sale?

[Travis Siegel]

Is there still the possibility to buy powerbasic for dos (version 3.5)? I don't see it on the products page even when I drill down into the various sections. I'm sure it sells next to no copies these days, but even next to nothing isn't zero, and I wanted to post it's link on a dos forum I'm in, because there's a discussion of compilers for dos, and I wanted them to know a commercial compiler is still sold, since they referenced only opensource options. Admittedly, I've not looked at the powerbasic site for a while, but the last time I looked, the dos compiler was still available. Is it gone now? or is it just not listed on the main page? If so, is there a link folks can still use if they want a copy?
Thanks for any assistance.

[Steven Pringels 3]

Hi Travis,

maybe it is better to write a private message to Adam Drake regarding your inquiry?

Regards,
Steven

[Eric Pearson]

Travis, are you aware that PB/DOS (and the programs it compiles) will not run under any current version of Windows? It creates 16-bit DOS executable, and Windows will run only 32/64-bit programs. You'd need a machine with a 16/32-bit operating system.

[Joe Caverly]

I use PB/DOS on my Windows 10 x64 system via DOSBox-X and MSDOS Player.

Here's an example of how I use MSDOS Player on my Windows 10 x64 system.

Note that TSR's cannot be created with PD/DOS under DOSBox-X.

MSDOS Player also allows to convert 16-bit .EXE file to 64bit execution file.
Thus, the 64-bit .EXE can be run on a 64-bit system without MSDOS Player.

Joe

[Travis Siegel]

Travis, are you aware that PB/DOS (and the programs it compiles) will not run under any current version of Windows? It creates 16-bit DOS executable, and Windows will run only 32/64-bit programs. You'd need a machine with a 16/32-bit operating system.
I'm pretty sure the line about a dos forum covered that aspect of things. Yes, I'm well aware that windows is a 32-64 bit os, and dos is a 16-bit os. There are folks that run dos in all sorts of environments, including on original 8086-80486 machines, and that's not to mention dosbox, dos emu, and virtual box.
Of course, there's also freedos, as well as the opensource opendos (which I think is still downloadable), and although it's been a while, I think you can still purchase a source version of PTS dos as well.
It's not as common as it was 10 or so years ago, but there are still installations of dos running in industrial settings too, so dos isn't quite dead yet, although I suspect many of the remaining installations will be replaced with raspberry pie solutions relatively soon, since they are cheap, and can easily be upgraded to keep pace with changing requirements.

[Michael Mattias]

I have to ask.... for what purpose do you need ( assume it must be need rather than want!) to create a 16-bit executable?

[Dale Yarker]

I have to ask.... for what purpose do you need ( assume it must be need rather than want!) to create a 16-bit executable?

Really??

From post#5

It's not as common as it was 10 or so years ago, but there are still installations of dos running in industrial settings too, so dos isn't quite dead yet,

Why can't old running systems also get new or updated programs?

[Chris Boss]

PB DOS can be useful for writing embedded apps for x86 SOC's running FREEDOS.

DMP in Taiwan makes an amazing Vortex86 (x86 compatible) module which is a complete PC board on a module the size of a credit card which can be installed on your own embedded board designs.

https://shop.dmp.com.tw/INT/products-519

[Olav Bergesen]

https://winworldpc.com/product/powerbasic/3x

[Dale Yarker]

The link you provided may be what Travis needs (if Adam is okay with it).

The page has not been updated in a while. Mr.Zale passed in 2012 (I remember the year because I darned near followed him in 2013 while I was in Afghanistan)

Cheers,

[Eric Pearson]

AFAIK PB/DOS has not been placed in the public domain, so people should not be downloading it from the link in post #9 without checking with PowerBASIC (Adam).

[Adam J. Drake]

https://forum.powerbasic.com/forum/user-to-user-discussions/powerbasic-for-dos/758773-pb-dos-3-5-not-listed-in-product-catalog-what-s-the-story

To quote myself:

We are currently working on a new website. When this new website is rolled out, PowerBASIC for DOS will be available. It will be licensed at no cost, but will NOT be public domain or freeware.

Send me an email at [email protected] and I can get you a copy of the installer. It is not visible on the website but available by request, and it has not been placed into the public domain.

[Stuart McLachlan]

It is not visible on the website but available by request, and it has not been placed into the public domain.

Is it just me or everyone?
I can see various subdomains (forum., downloads.. help.) but I haven't been able to connect to the parent powerbasic.com for a long time:



Added: Down.com etc all say it's up. I wonder if it is geo-blocking my PNG IP address!

Added2: Yep it looks like it is geoblocking. I can get there with PrrotonVPN using a US server, but not with my PNG IP address.

[Chris Boss]

Adam

You might want to consider putting PB DOS on the product list on the web site and sell it for just $1.

Once the word gets out you might get a lot of people to buy it. This would provide a list of potential customers for PB WIN you can email offers to.

[Mark Hunter]

Travis, are you aware that PB/DOS (and the programs it compiles) will not run under any current version of Windows? It creates 16-bit DOS executable, and Windows will run only 32/64-bit programs. You'd need a machine with a 16/32-bit operating system.

I installed the 32-bit version of Windows 7 on my computer because I needed to run Windows 97, a 16-bit program.

Maybe there is a work-around for 64-bit versions of Windows. According to the following link, there is a way to get NVTDM working on Windows 64-bit by compiling and installing he indicated software. Once installed, 64-bit Windows will be able to run 16-bit executables the same way it runs 32-bit software.
Run Microsoft Windows NTVDM (DOS) on 64bit Editions

[Joe Caverly]

MSDOS Player allows me to run PowerBasic Dos 3.5 from 64-bit Microsoft Windows.

msdos.exe -e -n PB.EXE

Ref: https://forum.powerbasic.com/forum/u...395#post825395

Joe