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  • #21
    It's worth mentioning that the fundamentals of notebook computers
    are changing very fast (rapidly).

    Gateway is advertising a Celeron notebook at $999.

    The material which notebook screens are made from (constructed
    from) was projected to drop in cost. The Taiwan earthquake put
    that situation on hold but now that cost reduction fundamental
    will likely return.

    IBM, Sony, and Gateway are planning on using the Transmeta Crusoe
    chip in upcoming notebooks for longer battery life and for
    lower cost.

    The $500 notebook is within reach.

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    • #22
      The situation would have been better if Microsoft had made a translator that converted Basic source into C++ source. At least then it would compile to real machine code.

      PowerBasic could fill the void. Either with a real compiler or a translator that would spit out C++ code an projects that the Embedded Tools can then compile.

      At work we are having to go out and hire C++ people for our CE shop. Not because of the operating system, but because VB for CE stinks! It works and I can code around most of the bugs and craziness, but it is slower than snails in a snowstorm.

      Since Microsoft has dropped the ball (again), PowerBasic could be in a great position to run ahead of Redmond (again).

      We can put all sorts of Wireless networking solutions in CE devices and use them to great advantage. SalesLink (tm) is just the tip of the iceburg coming out of the design team at DSI.


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      Charles Kincaid

      (The above is my opinion alone and not that of either my employer or clients.)
      ATB

      Charles Kincaid

      (The above is my opinion alone and not that of either my employer or clients.)

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      • #23
        You could count me in for use of a PB-CE compiler
        (if there was one). Current exploration into CE
        for our company and development strategies around
        CE have waned because of insufficient development
        tools and the unproven state of CE thus far. With
        the latest releases of CE however, MS seems to have
        made their commitment to the embedded market. We
        currently use NT Embedded as the OS for a low
        powered imaging system and our interest in CE
        revolves around the creation of apps that can
        access and manipulate these systems remotely.
        Current research into compilers has turned up,
        the Embedded toolkit from MS, but also
        an alternative to that in NS Basic. I can't make
        any comments on either at this point for lack of
        testing, but taking PB's history and my appreciation
        of their compiler, I would use theirs over the others.

        My Vote for PBCE!

        Michael


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        • #24
          I'm a "hobby-type" astronomer. I do a lot of CCD imaging and
          have a scope that can be computer controlled for alignment. I
          have to drag a laptop out with me to do the things I want to
          do, it's a pain in the B***. If I could port my software to a
          "palm-top" I'd be a happy camper. If I could sell the software
          to the other 200,000 (Sky and Telescopes circulation figures)
          "hobby-types" I'd be rich. Let's see quality astro software for
          their palm top at 50 bucks a pop to 200,000 folks... Hon! where's
          my calculator?

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          • #25
            I haven't used this tool, but it seems like it may be a possibility for BASIC programmers:
            http://www.nsbasic.com

            Regards,

            Jason Bock

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            • #26
              Unfortunatly NSBASIC is not a compiler. It is an interperted language.
              NSA Basic uses the same VB Scrit engine as VB/CE when running on Win/CE.
              So Any issues you have with Win/CE you will have with NSBASIC

              Kevin

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              [This message has been edited by KevinVoell (edited August 25, 2000).]

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              • #27
                <<PowerBasic could fill the void. Either with a real compiler
                <<or a translator that would spit out C++ code an projects that
                <<the Embedded Tools can then compile.
                I think that a translator would be the only way to make the PB
                compilers multi-platform in a resonalble time. The idea would be
                to have a source code analyzer produce the syntax analyzis
                of a PB module in the form of an XML file then used to produce
                its Java, or C counterpart...

                Philippe Monteil
                JAZZAge Software




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                • #28
                  Originally posted by John McWilliams:
                  If I could port my software to a
                  "palm-top" I'd be a happy camper. If I could sell the software
                  to the other 200,000 (Sky and Telescopes circulation figures)
                  "hobby-types" I'd be rich. Let's see quality astro software for
                  their palm top at 50 bucks a pop to 200,000 folks... Hon! where's
                  my calculator?
                  If you stand to make that much money, you'll be able to afford to employ a programmer to port the code to any language that will run on WINCE?

                  Just kidding...!



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                  Lance
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                  • #29
                    Just some stuff I ran across in my reading:

                    Intel Attacks Handheld Market
                    http://www.forbes.com/tool/html/00/Aug/0825/mu6.htm

                    "While the PC business has been very good to Intel (nasdaq: INTC), that market's growth rate is slowing. Handheld sales are likely to double in the coming year ... International Data Corp. predicts that handheld devices will outsell PCs sometime next year."


                    Handhelds Sales To Swell To $73 Billion By 2005
                    http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20000817S0010

                    "Sales of small wireless Web devices such as handheld computers and basic mircrobrowser phones are expected to reach $73 billion by 2005 from $10 billion this year."

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                    [This message has been edited by Dean Sadata (edited August 29, 2000).]

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