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  • Eric Pearson
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    Lance --

    Chicago, Illinois (the 3rd largest city in the U.S.) has a long and colorful political history, including many scandals, blatant nepotism and political favors, connections with organized crime, election fraud, and on and on. The city was particularly notorious in the early part of the 20th century, (the Prohibition era, etc.) but reputations like that are hard to shake.

    I think the slogan "Vote Democratic! Vote Often!" started there.

    -- Eric

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  • Lance Edmonds
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    Michael, can you please explain that comment to a poor non-US citizen? Was there some sort of scandal?

    Thanks!


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  • Michael Mattias
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    Stephan [has]"voted" many times..
    Maybe he's from Chicago.

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    Chris,

    Much of Stephanes wishlist has been also asked by others and I
    guess he is just adding his vote.

    Stifling "honest" expressions, no matter how poorly it may be
    expressed, is counter productive.
    Do a search on Stephan's posts and tell me that it isn't repetitive. He's "voted" many times .

    As I stated before, I'm all for free speech. But in technical newsgroup forums like this one (as well as the DevX and Developmentor forums), I expect a high signal-to-noise ratio. Having someone post the same thing time and time again is IMO annoying. Especially when members of the PowerBASIC staff have told him in the newsgroup that they have received his requests and will handle them as they would any other request.

    I have stated what I wanted in PB. Others have as well. I believe that PowerBASIC listens, even if they don't implement what I want. I just wish Stephen would understand that the request has been heard, and it's up to PB to determine if it will be implemented or not.

    Regards,

    Jason

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  • Siamack Yousofi
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    By the time Powerbasic gets all our collective GUI wishes into the compiler,
    Graphic User Interface may be obsolete and we will start moaning about the
    lack of Voice Command API support and 64-Bit version and what not

    Instead of playing catch-up we may be better off if we leap-frog everyone else
    and concentrate on these future technologies.

    Now on a serious note

    Why is it that we programmer types are always more preoccupied with what our
    programming tools cannot do rather than taking advantage of what they can?

    If all the time and energy that goes into debating the merits of this and that was
    spent on learning the SDK, we would all be crack and programmers by now.


    Siamack


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  • Peter P Stephensen
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    Stephane --

    Keep up the good work!
    With your help we are all allowed to see the true personality
    of some of our fellow PB-programmers. Very interesting!

    Regards
    Peter


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  • Steve Hutchesson
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    I think Michael's suggestion is a great leap forward, having the capacity
    in a programming language to "Do what I mean" is true leading edge
    technology, no more grubby bits, bytes, mouse, editors, functions, subs
    etc ...., just the power of sheer imagination.

    Now all we have to do is convince Stephane to code this new concept for
    us in Delphi so we can share all of the advantages that he would wish us
    to have.

    [email protected]

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  • Chris Boss
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    Personally, I think Stephanes posts are "harmless" and I am
    surprised at how much "flack" he gets from others.

    True he is "persistant" and "repetative", but it doesn't hurt
    anyone. At least he is enthusiastic !

    Much of Stephanes wishlist has been also asked by others and I
    guess he is just adding his vote.

    Stifling "honest" expressions, no matter how poorly it may be
    expressed, is counter productive.

    To Stephane a suggestion :

    Rather than simply state a list if Wishs for PB, it would be better
    to take your first few top wishes and try to explain in more
    detail "why" they are important to you and possibly "how" you
    think they could be implimented.

    Also it would be helpful to us a little more about "how" you
    currently write software and in what way you currently use the
    PB compiler. Are you only using PB for DLLs ? Have you attempted
    to learn DDT or SDK style coding ?



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  • Gregery D Engle
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    I disagree with most of stephane's requests. Simply because a lot
    of his requests are personal programming habits of himself. I
    believe a good programmer should adapt to the language instead
    of having it modified to meet his/her needs.

    Everything that he lists can be accomplished with programming.

    The thing that bugs me the most is when people bug PowerBasic
    about making a good IDE and Graphical Generator. I mean who are
    we guys? Some of the best programmers in the world come to these
    forums! And we complain about little stuff like that.

    So we have 100's of damn good programmers that come here and only
    3 or 4 people have made IDE/Graphical Generators.

    I believe that if we're going to bug PowerBasic about adding
    stuff to a very inexpensive compiler I think we should first
    try to do our job! (If I did this everyday I would never have
    a job)

    Just for the support of Powerbasic, I think the focus of DDT
    and the winsock wrappers are the right direction simply because
    that most VB programmer have no idea about the inner workings
    of the SDK or winsock or any other features for that matter.

    I think that having a wrapper helps amature programmers build
    up there skill lever, and I'll be honest, I had NO idea about
    SDK, actually I didn't even know that it existed. I was
    sheltered from it with VB. But DDT wasn't that much of a
    change so I grasped it easily, and soon I'll be working with
    SDK. I think that these wrappers are the way to go.

    Just my opinion, take it as you will.

    Thanks

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    [This message has been edited by Gregery D Engle (edited September 17, 2000).]

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  • Brian Reynolds
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    Stephane

    This may help with your list of requests.

    I was reading some literature about Visual Basic and they claim
    to be able to do all the things you want.



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  • Michael Mattias
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    Since we're wishing...

    Add DWIM support. (Do what I mean).

    MCM

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  • Steve Hutchesson
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    Jim,

    I want one of those too, the only OOP(s) will be when I have too
    much pure malt on board.

    Whishlist,

    1. Performance and size like hand optimised assembler.
    2. Voice activation only, no keyboard or mouse input.
    3. No data types.
    4. Direct verbal control of interface components.
    5. NET aware.
    6. JIT compiling so it builds on a MAC but runs like 64 bit MIPS.
    7. Compile speed in under a nanosecond.
    8. IDE free code design.
    9. Example free environment.
    10. Object free design.
    11. IDEAL Language design so bugs are not possible.
    12. Capacity to understand instruction input in any natural language.
    13. Automatic error correction while under instruction.

    Greetings,

    [email protected]

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  • Florent Heyworth
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    Stephane does get repetitive

    however, I can't help feeling that the other posts in this
    thread have contributed to the bloat of this particular
    "discussion" without adding any content whatsoever.

    Cheers

    Florent

    PS: I guess my contribution falls in the same category

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  • Kev Peel
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    Argggghhhhhhhhh! Christ man!, GO AWAY!!!!!!!

    I've had e-mails off you and they all say the same thing:

    OoOoOoOoOoOoOopppppppp(s)!!!
    Maybe, if you'd just give us all a chance, we might be writing code instead of reading your mundane messages!!!


    No Regards,


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    www.go.to/kgpsoftware

    [This message has been edited by Kev Peel (edited September 15, 2000).]

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  • Jim Padgett
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    I think we should do away with coding all together. The compiler
    should be smart enough for me to just say "Make me a Text Editor"
    and voila... A text editor...


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  • Phil Tippit
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    Steve,

    How many times have we been here, 30 or more??

    Same Old Stuff, Same Old Stuff.

    I think the big problem is that Stephane doesn't know
    how to use the tools he already has.

    PowerBasic Code has saved by Butt. I love it.

    Phil

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  • Dave Navarro
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    and over...

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  • Dave Navarro
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    I have to agree with Jason.

    Posting the same stuff over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over (did you get my point) and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again is irritating.

    --Dave


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  • Steve Hutchesson
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    Hmmmm,

    Who holds the key to subject locking around here, there is
    clearly a touch of Deja Vu here (Ah been here before).

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    Argh! WHY do you keep posting the same thing over, and over, and over, and over, and over AGAIN?!

    I'm all for free speech. But repeated speech gets annoying pretty quickly. Many people here have told you that they get your message. Simply posting it many times over won't win support of your ideas, good or bad. Either say something constructive or don't say anything at all.

    We've all seen you requests for Power Delphi > . Now let's all wait patiently for PB 7.

    Jason

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