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**Semen Matusovski** · 15 Nov 2000, 11:22 AM

Egbert --
MS Office creates a lot of keys in registry.
Take a look something like HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Office ...

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**Egbert Zijlema** · 15 Nov 2000, 11:23 AM

Exactly Semen,

This registry mess is the real problem!

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**Steve Hutchesson** · 15 Nov 2000, 12:43 PM

Egbert,

The old technique was to use a tool like spy to get the application
classname so that you can use the function FindWindow() to determine
if it was running.

It used to be OPUSAPP on very old versions of word and it may be different
with the current ones but if you can locate the class name for word, its
a simple API call to test if its running.

Code:

  ClassName$ = "Whatever_Its_Name_Is"
  
  retval = FindWindow(StrPtr(ClassName$),ByVal %NULL)
  
      If retval = %NULL Then
        MsgBox "Sorry Dude, Word is not running"
      Else
        MsgBox "Congratulations, Word is running"
      End If

Regards,

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**Peter Redei** · 15 Nov 2000, 07:59 PM

I am not sure how much it will help you, since the detection method I use is for VB and not for PB, but here it is:

On Error GoTo ErrSub
'Word'97 and up can still understand these old Word.Basic's
Set Word = CreateObject("Word.Basic")
If Val(Word.AppInfo$(2)) >= 8 Then
'Word'97 or up
Set Word = Nothing
Set Word = CreateObject("Word.Application")
End If

ErrSub:
If Err = 429 Then
'MSWord is not installed
end if

Sincerely,

Peter Redei

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**Egbert Zijlema** · 15 Nov 2000, 11:00 PM

Steve,

It's not a matter of 'is the application running?' but is it installed.
Thanks, nevertheless, for your effort to help me out.

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**Semen Matusovski** · 15 Nov 2000, 11:39 PM

Egbert -
If you don't like direct access to registry
1) create a doc-file (fictive.doc)
2) FindExecutable "fictive.doc" (retrieving a path for msword.exe)
3) analyze version info of msword.exe

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**Iain Johnstone** · 16 Nov 2000, 01:23 AM

I may be missing the point here, but why not just look to see if Winword.exe is on a drive?
Peter Stephensen posted some very useful code for scanning directories looking for a particular file - thank you Peter, this has got me out of a hole on several occasions.

I use it to find where a user has put Acrobat Reader and Iexplore.exe.

POFFS returns the following data for this entry:
Message 00108 000489.html
Author Peter Stephensen
Title Scan directories
Date March 16 2000

Hope this is of help
Iain Johnstone

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**Egbert Zijlema** · 16 Nov 2000, 06:02 AM

Semen,

You are great! Thank you. This is what you mean, is'nt it?

Code:

#COMPILE EXE
#INCLUDE "WIN32API.INC"
  
FUNCTION Word97Exist(szFileName AS ASCIIZ * %MAX_PATH) AS LONG
  LOCAL Buffer AS STRING, ParsedFileName AS STRING, BuffSize AS LONG, ret AS LONG
  LOCAL ffi AS VS_FIXEDFILEINFO PTR
 
  FUNCTION = %FALSE
  ret = FindExecutable("Focus.doc", "", szFileName)
  IF ret < 33 THEN EXIT FUNCTION                      ' error
  ParsedFileName = DIR$(szFileName)
  IF UCASE$(ParsedFileName) <> "WINWORD.EXE" THEN EXIT FUNCTION
  BuffSize = GetFileVersionInfoSize(szFileName, 0&)
  IF BuffSize = 0 THEN EXIT FUNCTION                  ' no such info
  Buffer = SPACE$(BuffSize)
  ret = GetFileVersionInfo(szFileName, 0&, BuffSize, BYVAL STRPTR(Buffer))
  IF ret = 0 THEN EXIT FUNCTION                       ' error
  ret = VerQueryValue(BYVAL STRPTR(Buffer), "\", BYVAL VARPTR(ffi), s&)
  IF ret = 0 THEN EXIT FUNCTION                       ' error
  FUNCTION = HIWRD(@ffi.dwFileVersionMS)
END FUNCTION
 
FUNCTION PBMain() AS LONG
  LOCAL ret AS LONG, icon AS LONG
  LOCAL msgText AS STRING, szPath AS ASCIIZ * %MAX_PATH, fName AS STRING
  
  ret = Word97Exist(szPath)
  IF ret THEN
    fName = DIR$(szPath)
    REPLACE fName WITH "" IN szPath
    szPath = LEFT$(szPath, LEN(szPath) - 1)
    msgText = fName + " can be found in this directory: " + $CRLF + _
              CHR$(34) + szPath + CHR$(34) + $CRLF + _
              "It is version " + FORMAT$(ret)
    IF ret = 8 THEN msgText = msgText + ", also referred to as Word97"
    icon = 64
  ELSE
    msgText = "Microsoft Word not found"
    icon = 16
  END IF
  MSGBOX msgText, icon, "Searching MS-Word"
END FUNCTION

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**Egbert Zijlema** · 17 Nov 2000, 12:22 AM

Semen,

Forgot one important thing: the associated executable for .doc-files might be Word Perfect.
If that happens to be the case and its version is 8, MS-Word will not be installed, because
the program assumes it has been pre-installed. So we have to check for the file name as well
(see edited message with source).

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**Semen Matusovski** · 17 Nov 2000, 12:45 AM

Egbert --
I agree that it's necessary to check a name (WordPad, for example, could be linked with .DOC also).
But if name is wrong, perhaps, it's necessary to check DOT.

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**Edwin Knoppert** · 17 Nov 2000, 02:51 AM

If you take a closer look to the .DOC registered, you know the entry "Word.Document.8" as you already said.
This is the registry entry below..
\Word.Document.8 contains the entry:

shell\open\command wich contains:
""C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\Winword.exe" /n

So now we have the path..
In this path we have 2 files:
WINWORD8.SRG
WINWORD.EXE

Take a look to the first 2 sentences of WINWORD8.SRG.

And you know the fileversion of course, use it on winword.exe:

a d e m a r k o f M i c r o s o f t C o r p o r a t i o n .
g a l T r a d e m a r k s 2 W i n d o w s « i s a r e g i s
t r a d e m a r k o f M i c r o s o f t C o r p o r a t i o n
O r i g i n a l F i l e n a m e W I N W O R D . E X E ` P r
a m e M i c r o s o f t « W o r d f o r W i n d o w s «
>> P r o d u c t V e r s i o n 8 . 0 D V a r F i l e I n f o
a n s l a t i o n õ

Is this ok?

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**Egbert Zijlema** · 17 Nov 2000, 09:40 AM

Edwin,
You're even better than Semen!

Is this what you mean (approximately)?

Code:

#COMPILE EXE
#INCLUDE "WIN32API.INC"
 
FUNCTION Word97Exist() AS LONG
  LOCAL hKey AS LONG, ret AS LONG, szBuffer AS ASCIIZ * %MAX_PATH
  FUNCTION = %FALSE
  IF RegOpenKeyEx(%HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT, ".DOC", 0, %KEY_ALL_ACCESS, hKey) <> %ERROR_SUCCESS THEN
    EXIT FUNCTION
  END IF
 
  ret = RegQueryValueEx(hKey, "", 0, 0, szBuffer, SIZEOF(szBuffer))
  IF (ret <> %ERROR_SUCCESS) OR (LEN(szBuffer) = 0) THEN
    RegCloseKey hKey
    EXIT FUNCTION
  END IF
  IF szBuffer = "Word.Document.8" THEN FUNCTION = %TRUE
  RegCloseKey hKey
END FUNCTION
 
FUNCTION PBMain() AS LONG
  IF Word97Exist THEN
    MSGBOX "You're lucky, Word97 has been installed on this machine.", 64, "Bingo!"
  ELSE
    MSGBOX "Sorry, but you have to install Word97 yourself.", 16, "Not found"
  END IF
END FUNCTION

Thank you,

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**George Bleck** · 17 Nov 2000, 11:07 AM

My bet would be to do the following...

(1a) Check if WINWORD.EXE is in it's default location
or
(1b) Search for WINWORD.EXE if it's NOT in the default location

(2) Read the Version stamp of the found WINWORD.EXE itself.

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**Edwin Knoppert** · 18 Nov 2000, 12:29 AM

Egbert,

In fact, this is what i meant.

1) Retrieve the full path and filename.
2) Use the fileversion for correct version.
3) Distinguish different type of applications like Word or WP etc..

Is this ok?

Code:

#Compile Exe
#Include "WIN32API.INC"
 
Function Reg_GetAppByExtension( ByVal Extension As String ) As String
 
    Dim a           As Long
    Dim hKey        As Long
    Dim Result      As Long
    Dim Buffer      As Asciiz * %MAX_PATH + 1
    Dim GroupName   As String
 
    Extension = Trim$( Extension )
    If Extension = "" Then Exit Function
    Extension = "." & Ltrim$( Extension, "." )
 
    '// Find the application using this extension..
    If RegOpenKeyEx( _
          %HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT _
        , ByVal StrPtr( Extension ) _
        , 0 _
        , %KEY_QUERY_VALUE _
        , hKey _
        ) <> %ERROR_SUCCESS Then Exit Function
 
    If RegQueryValueEx( _
                  hKey _
                , ByVal 0& _
                , ByVal 0& _
                , ByVal 0& _
                , Buffer _
                , SizeOf( Buffer ) _
                ) = %ERROR_SUCCESS _
                Then GroupName = Buffer
 
    RegCloseKey hKey
 
    '// Let's open the groupname.
    If GroupName = "" Then Exit Function
 
    GroupName = GroupName & "\shell\open\command"
 
    If RegOpenKeyEx( _
          %HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT _
        , ByVal StrPtr( GroupName ) _
        , 0 _
        , %KEY_QUERY_VALUE _
        , hKey _
        ) <> %ERROR_SUCCESS Then Exit Function
 
    If RegQueryValueEx( _
                  hKey _
                , ByVal 0& _
                , ByVal 0& _
                , ByVal 0& _
                , Buffer _
                , SizeOf( Buffer ) _
                ) = %ERROR_SUCCESS _
                Then GroupName = Buffer
 
 
    RegCloseKey hKey
 
    Buffer = Trim$( Buffer )
 
    '// is it a long file name?
    If Left$( Buffer, 1 ) = Chr$( 34 ) Then
 
        Buffer = Mid$( Buffer, 2 )
        a = Instr( Buffer, Chr$( 34 ) )
        If a Then Buffer = Left$( Buffer, a - 1 )
 
    Else
 
        '// Short name without spaces, remove parameters.
        a = Instr( Buffer, " " )
        If a Then Buffer = Left$( Buffer, a - 1 )
 
    End If
 
    Function = Buffer
 
End Function
 
Function IsSufficientWordVersion( ByVal FileName As String ) As Long
 
    Dim a                   As Long
    Dim BufLen              As Long
    Dim Buffer              As String
    Dim AppName             As String
    Dim FileVersion         As VS_FIXEDFILEINFO Ptr
    Dim fvHandle            As Long
    Dim MajorVersion        As Long
    Dim MinorVersion        As Long
    Dim RevisionVersion     As Long
    Dim ResRevisionVersion  As Long
 
    FileName = Trim$( FileName )
    If FileName = "" Then Exit Function
 
    AppName = FileName
    a = Instr( -1, AppName, "\" )
    If a Then AppName = Mid$( AppName, a + 1 )
 
    '// Determine fileinfo size.
    BufLen = GetFileVersionInfoSize( ByVal StrPtr( FileName ), fvHandle )
    If BufLen =< 0 Then Exit Function
 
    '// Prepare buffer
    Buffer = String$( BufLen, 0 )
 
    '// Retrieve fileinfo.
    a = GetFileVersionInfo( ByVal StrPtr( FileName ), ByVal 0&, BufLen, ByVal StrPtr( Buffer ) )
    If a = 0 Then Exit Function
 
    '// Retrieve the fileversion.
    VerQueryValue ByVal StrPtr( Buffer ), "\", FileVersion, fvHandle
    MajorVersion        = @FileVersion.dwFileVersionMS   \ &HFFFF&
    MinorVersion        = @FileVersion.dwFileVersionMS And &HFFFF&
    RevisionVersion     = @FileVersion.dwFileVersionLS   \ &HFFFF&
    ResRevisionVersion  = @FileVersion.dwFileVersionLS And &HFFFF&
 
#If 1   '< Set to 0 to skip..
 
    MsgBox AppName  _
        & Str$( MajorVersion ) & "," _
        & Str$( MinorVersion ) & "," _
        & Str$( RevisionVersion ) & "," _
        & Str$( ResRevisionVersion ) _
        , %MB_TASKMODAL, "FileVersion"
 
#EndIf
 
    '// Check per application.
    Select Case UCase$( AppName )
    Case "WINWORD.EXE"
 
        Function = IsTrue( MajorVersion >= 8 )
 
    Case "WP6.EXE"  '<< Don't know this one  
    Case Else
    End Select
 
End Function
 
Function PbMain() As Long
 
    Dim T As String
 
    T = Reg_GetAppByExtension( "DOC" )
    MsgBox T & $CRLF & Str$( IsSufficientWordVersion( T ) ), %MB_TASKMODAL, "Word"
 
End Function

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**Trevor Lane** · 18 Nov 2000, 03:53 AM

Egbert,

What was wrong with Semens original solution,

You know that if you are looking for "Word 97" it is going to appear in

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Office\8.0\Word\InstallRoot

Look for the key 'Path' and if it has been installed the Path to the
executable will be returned. (I agree it is a mess though, some programs
return the path with the exename others without, some enclosed with
qoutation marks, others without etc.)

What am I missing.

Trevor

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**Edwin Knoppert** · 18 Nov 2000, 04:57 AM

What if the key changes?
You applied a specific word97 key.
Maybe the question is not if you have Word97 but if the has Word97 or higher.
The code i placed does not refer in any way to a specific word version.
Only at the end for testing..

Additionally i wrote a case in case you want to accept wp users too.

BTW, as mentioned earlier, FindExecutable is a prob. a good shortcut for the registry part.
This makes it very small and you perfectly know the exact version of the exe used.

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