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  • Yet another Visual Design Tool?

    Hi Everybody,

    I am trying to gauge how much support I would have for a
    product I have been developing with for the last few weeks.

    I am writing a visual design environment that is a clone of
    the Visual Basic 6 environment. I have the toolbox, project
    explorer and property windows already complete. As well I have
    the drawing of controls, moving controls and resize handles
    done. The internal guts is not touched yet. Note: the project
    is being written in Visual Basic

    I would like to ask how many ex-VB programmers out there would
    like a product like this and would be willing to evaluate it
    over the course of its development. It *may* eventually end up
    being a retail offering but all the alpha and betas will be
    free.

    The generated code will be DDT and if there is enough demand
    maybe SDK (although I would definately need help in that area).

    The backend code will use most of the elements from the
    JellyFish Editor.

    I would also like to explore the possibility of being able to
    integrate custom controls directly into the toolbox - from
    reading posts in this Forum I see that various people have
    custom controls available and may be willing to adapt them
    to a project like this.

    It may never rival the functionality of EZGUI but you never
    know - never say never.

    Please give me either a thumbs up or thumbs down




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    Paul Squires
    mailto:[email protected][email protected]</A>
    Paul Squires
    FireFly Visual Designer (for PowerBASIC Windows 10+)
    Version 3 now available.
    http://www.planetsquires.com

  • #2
    Paul;

    Sounds Interesting !

    I am sure the next generation of RAD tools for PB will make
    PB programmers more productive.




    [This message has been edited by Chris Boss (edited May 09, 2001).]
    Chris Boss
    Computer Workshop
    Developer of "EZGUI"
    http://cwsof.com
    http://twitter.com/EZGUIProGuy

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Paul Squires:

      I would like to ask how many ex-VB programmers out there would
      like a product like this and would be willing to evaluate it
      over the course of its development.
      Count me in, Paul. You may contact me at [email protected] (work) or [email protected] (private).


      It *may* eventually end up
      being a retail offering but all the alpha and betas will be
      free.
      I never had a problem to pay for something that's usefull to me. We all need to make our living.

      Knuth
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      http://www.softAware.de



      [This message has been edited by Knuth Konrad (edited May 10, 2001).]

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      • #4
        I would be interested in looking at this too, Paul. Count me in.

        -- Jim

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        • #5
          Does it look like this?
          www.pbsoft.nl/trials/vd.exe


          Don't worrie, mine is ready in 2090..
          Only button and textbox work..

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          hellobasic

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          • #6
            Paul, count me in!!

            Edwin, that trial demo of your IDE looks brilliant - very VB6-like (and I love VB's IDE!)
            Id happily pay for a fully-functional program like that Edwin, pity that it'll take you until 2090 to finish it - that's why I'm in favour of PB IDEs created in VB as they can be developed a hell of a lot faster - in Pauls case, just a few weeks

            Best,
            Wayne


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            • #7
              Originally posted by Paul Squires:

              I would like to ask how many ex-VB programmers out there would
              like a product like this and would be willing to evaluate it
              over the course of its development.
              Count me in, too.



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              E-Mail (work): mailto:[email protected][email protected]</A>

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              • #8
                What happened to Daniel Modler? He had a promising IDE going. Did he bail because of the debugger issue? He's like ... gone!

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                • #9
                  From one Paul to another..

                  I'm in!

                  I'm always willing to try these things out. DDT is nice but sometimes unicode support is needed, don't suppose you feel like tacking a wee bit in that direction?

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                  Paul Dwyer
                  Network Engineer
                  Aussie in Tokyo

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                  • #10
                    I would like to see an independent module approach.
                    I would prefer dll's but as Paul is writing this in VB I believe COM objects would
                    fit the bill. My VB is a bit rusty but I think these would be ActiveX exe's???

                    The three modules would be.

                    1. Visual Designer
                    2. Code Generator
                    3. Editor

                    Comments??

                    James




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                    • #11
                      Ahhh.... the motivation I need!

                      Thanks a lot everyone. I'll try to find some diehard time to
                      pour into the code. I'm trying to make the code as object
                      oriented as possible and to use as few ActiveX controls as
                      possible. Being a VB program you can be sure it will end up
                      in the 5 or 6 meg range - but if it gets the job done then
                      that's all that matters!

                      BTW, Edwin I downloaded your vd.exe - very nice! Too bad it
                      won't be ready until 2090 you would have at least one customer
                      in me. However, I don't think I would name the EXE after
                      a disease

                      I plan to codename this project PowerGUI. Does anybody have a
                      problem with that? Am I taking a name already being used by
                      someone? Sound too close to Kev's PowerIDE? Maybe I should
                      call it JellyGUI

                      I'll post a download link in this Forum (actually, the Third
                      Party Tools Forum) when the code progresses to a reasonable
                      stage.

                      Thanks,



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                      Paul Squires
                      mailto:[email protected][email protected]</A>
                      Paul Squires
                      FireFly Visual Designer (for PowerBASIC Windows 10+)
                      Version 3 now available.
                      http://www.planetsquires.com

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