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  • Cliff Nichols
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    Its like my Grandmother, always afraid she will break the danged thing *LOL*

    Try Cribbage too if any of them are from the New England areas (very addictive and fun to play)


    For the most part though....I would leave the internet out of it because that is opening Pandora's box in most cases.

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  • Gösta H. Lovgren-2
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    Originally posted by Dave Biggs View Post
    Turn them on to FreeCell - with the 'Double click moves card to free cell' option enabled they'll get to practice double clicks as well as click & drag.

    Great idea, Dave. Just started back with FreeCell a few weeks ago. I used to play it a lot. My personal record is 74 wins in a row. I used a system. Whenever I lost a game, I would replay the same one until I beat it (sometimes playing the same one over and over, maybe 10-20 times. Only found one or two unbeatable).

    Whenever I got on a streak of 10 wins, from there on I would only play 3 games at a sitting. Seems like the mind got tired or distracted after 3 in a row.

    Another really great "think ahead" game is "Genius Move". Only one I like better than FreeCell. Not a freebie though. I think it was around $20.

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  • Dave Biggs
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    Turn them on to FreeCell - with the 'Double click moves card to free cell' option enabled they'll get to practice double clicks as well as click & drag.

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  • Barry Marks
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    The object is to get them interested in using the computer. Most of these people are in their 70s and 80s and have never used one before. I'm 67 and I'm one of the youngest ones here.

    Anyway, Solitare seems to be doing that. Most of them know and like Solitaire and several have started playing every day. A couple are even shopping for cheap computers so they can play in their apartments.

    Anyway, I think I'll just let things stand as they are. Everything I've tried to do to interest them has been ignored and hasn't really been needed anyway.

    We're getting broadband, too, but it might be another couple weeks. I'm hoping there'll be a lot of interest in email. Most of these people have families that have computers that they can communicate with when that's available.

    Everyone's initial reaction was that they didn't want to get near the thing but several have been won over by Solitare. We still have one resident who insists that computers are wicked and we're all risking our souls.

    Barry

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  • Michael Mattias
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    [Users] opted to learn to play Solitaire instead of practicing clicks and double clicks.
    Good for them!

    You know what you could use is a listview control in icon or large-icon mode. Then they can click on an icon to select it, or double-click to select and "DO".. and they can rearrange the buttons (icons) all they want, just the way they want them!

    Of course, you'll have to find some icons....but it might be a kind of nice thing for users..

    MCM

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  • Barry Marks
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    Originally posted by Michael Mattias View Post
    So one (1) click on a button does....nothing?

    Gee, I can't wait to learn how to use THAT software.....
    Not at all! If they single click the button it says "Single Click". If they double click it it says "Double Click" and the background of the text flashes red. It's really exciting.

    However, the intended users seemed to share your opinion. They opted to learn to play Solitaire instead of practicing clicks and double clicks.

    Oh well.

    Barry

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  • Michael Mattias
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    So one (1) click on a button does....nothing?

    Gee, I can't wait to learn how to use THAT software.....

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  • Barry Marks
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    Yep! That was it. It's working fine now.

    Thanks,
    Barry

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  • Michael Mattias
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    Purely from memory (ie may be way off base)...

    Double-click message always results first in a single-click message. If second click does not occur 'quickly enough' (there's a system parameter you can reset if desired) then 'double click' does not occur.

    No way are you dismissing that MSGBOX on click quickly enough to allow double-click to occur.

    MCM

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  • Barry Marks
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    I tried using %BS_NOTIFY but it doesn't get the %BN_DBLCLK message. I tried it as a message within %WM_COMMAND and also as a seperate message within the button notification and it doesn't seem to get either.

    Here's the code showing both:

    CASE %WM_COMMAND
    ' Process control notifications
    SELECT CASE AS LONG CBCTL
    CASE %LBL_LABEL1

    CASE %BN_DBLCLK
    MSGBOX "Double clicked=" + FORMAT$(%BTN_CLICKME), _
    %MB_TASKMODAL

    CASE %BTN_CLICKME
    IF CBCTLMSG = %BN_CLICKED OR CBCTLMSG = 1 THEN
    MSGBOX "%BTN_CLICKME=" + FORMAT$(CBCTLMSG), _
    %MB_TASKMODAL
    END IF
    IF CBCTLMSG = %BN_DBLCLK THEN
    MSGBOX "Double clicked=", _
    %MB_TASKMODAL
    END IF

    END SELECT
    Any ideas?

    Barry

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  • Barry Marks
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    Thanks for the %BS_NOTIFY tip. It sounds like what I'm looking for.

    As for liking or not liking double clicks, I guess I fall somewhat on the side of not liking them. However, they do exist.

    I live in a rural retirement home where most of the residents, many in their 80's, have never been around computers, and they just provided one for everyone to use. I'm trying to help some of them get started with email, etc. and they're having a lot of problems with double-clicks.

    I want to make up a little program for them to practice on so double-clicks are sort of the point.

    Again, thanks for the tip. I'll give that a try

    Barry

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  • Cliff Nichols
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    I like double clicks of sorts...the first means I meant to pick it...not just highlight it...the second means I MEANNNNNT to click it

    To me though...if a button, that breaks the rule...obviously if I clicked it, I did it on purpose and meant to click it

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  • Roger Garstang
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    Personally I hate double clicks. Often users move between clicks and drag something. I like an interface with single clicks and right clicks only. And only icons and entries in a list should be doubld clicked if anything. Never buttons. I think Calc in Windows even blocks double clicks of buttons just to prevent mistakes.

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  • Michael Mattias
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    Won't that be kind of an awkard user interface? Buttons are clicked, something happens. You don't double-click buttons.

    ??

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  • Chris Boss
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    Roger,

    Be careful in referencing something from FireFly, since it may not be what you think. FireFly has a good deal of library code which may do all sorts of tricks for you. You are probably dealing with a custom window class for the parent Form which is probably what the CS_DBLCLKS class style is for, but this will have no effect on the controls, but only the form and has little meaning for a DDT app.

    For DDT apps, the BS_NOTIFY style is exactly what is needed and this generates the BN_DBLCLK notification event (passed through WM_COMMAND) which will be sent to the DDT control callback function.

    DDT apps can't define the form (dialog) class style, since the class is a predefined class in Windows and not a user defined class.

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  • Roger Garstang
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    I believe there is a class style for the form and/or button to even send double click messages too. I usually turn it off on mine when I use FireFly because people have a habit of double clicking buttons and I try to get them to stop. I used to process both as the same in one message handler, but it got old having to put both. I'm not sure what the default in DDT is, but you should be able to set it.

    Added: Looks like it is the class of the form- CS_DBLCLKS

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  • Chris Boss
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    You must use the %BS_NOTIFY style with the Button when creating it.

    This will generate the %BN_DBLCLK notification event (sent to your button DDT control callback function).

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  • Barry Marks
    started a topic Detect doubleclick on button

    Detect doubleclick on button

    I'd like to be able to process both the click and the double click on a normal button using DDT and Forms. This is simple enough that I can do it fine without Forms and I wouldn't really mind using something to substitute for the button if needed.

    I realize this can be done with SDK programming but if I can I'd like to put off getting into that just a little longer. If I can.

    Any easy way to do this? Why isn't stuff this basic included in either DDT or Forms? Is it likely to be next update?

    Thanks for any suggestions.

    Barry
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