New Version

Chris - yes, but the Windows XP being delivered this year is for the 32-bit x86 archetecture. The 64-bit version, targeted to IA-64 chips like the long-delayed Itanium, won't be coming out until sometime in 2002, last I heard (unless Micro$oft has changed gears very recently.)

Given the many issues involved in migration to the 64-bit hardware, though, I wouldn't expect the 32-bit world to disappear for a long, long time... I know I certainly have no plans to go 64-bit anytime soon, and I doubt the embedded-systems world in general will exactly embrace IA-64 anytime soon; frankly, any engineer who would try to stuff an XP-running Itanium into a Lawn Bird sprinkler controller should be shot.

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[Bradley Callis]

Good reply Lance...RSN


Real Soon Niraj

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Thanks,

Bradley Callis

Every time someone mention this topic of new release and secracy,
it does get heated up
doesn't it.

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Niraj Bhatt

[Chris Boss]

Lance;

From a number of online news pages, I have read that
Windows XP is slated for release in October 2001 !

Thats just a few months away !


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[Lance Edmonds]

RSN...

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Lance
PowerBASIC Support
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[Wayne Diamond]

Somebody from PB shoot me, but I only have one question:
When?



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[Lance Edmonds]

The 64-bit version of Windows XP is not expected until sometime in 2002, last I heard. Anyone know any different? (The 32-bit version cannot be too far away?)

Even when it the 64-bit version does get released, I personally can't see any large-scale uptake of it (at least initially), so 32-bit Windows is here to stay for at least the forseeable future (IMHO).

That said, 64-bit PowerBASIC compilers are not out of the question...

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Lance
PowerBASIC Support
mailto:[email protected][email protected]</A>

[Francis Beaulieu]

I'm pretty sure that it's too late, but I hope that Power Basic
will not forget that all the next releases of Win OS will be in
64-bits...

It's a guest, but I don't deceive myself about it...

Regards...

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FrabLaser Softwares

[Joe Byrne]

Bob! Who let you out of the R&D dungeon? back...back...back..



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[Bob Zale]

A very little hint? ok...

Yes, there will be an upgrade.

Regards,

Bob Zale
PowerBASIC Inc.



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Ok Lance,
How about some very very litle hints.
Is the next version going to be a window one or the linux one.
Is there going to be a very new and very good IDE or are you going to leave it for the third party.

Hope the answers to this is not going to clash with the policies.

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Niraj Bhatt

[Don Dickinson]

I think it might benefit everyone more if anything between <soapbox> tags was invisible to everyone except the author
--Don

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[Steve Hutchesson]

Don,

I am very much in agreement with your view about getting the full
value of the existing technology before whinging about what the
next version will/ought/should have in it. Until compiler become
MAC style software that is supposed to "do what I think", writing
code still seems to be the way to go.

The real interest in you post was related to the new <SOAPBOX>
switch that you have discovered. I wonder if we could ask the staff
to add a formatting option to the forum so that such weighty
considerations could be delivered in an appropriate style.

[soapbox]
  mutterings
  "the grapes of wrath" etc..
  platitudes
[/soapbox]

Regards,

[email protected]



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[Don Dickinson]

my 2 cents on the "where's the new version" question ...
<SOAPBOX>
I'll start asking about it when i master the previous compiler and its interaction with windows. Even if future versions might make some things easier, there's a lot to learn by doing things the "hard way". I used pbdll5 to learn 32-bit windows programming the hard way. If ddt in pbdll6 were released sooner perhaps I'd have done an application or two faster, but it would have hurt in the long run. Based on the hard won knowledge gained from using pbdll5, I am a better programmer today. So ... if pbdll6 doesn't have everything built in, perhaps it's time to write your own code (and share it) to do things you wish for. Then when new things are available (pbdll7 or whatever) we'll have a bigger shared code base and a better idea of how pb is accomplishing its magic.
Bottom line is, you can waste time asking pb questions that they won't answer or spend your time *learning* and *creating* with their existing tools - sharing what you've learned is also helpful.
</SOAPBOX>

Best Regards to All,
Don

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[Steve Hutchesson]

Niraj,

I think you can be pretty safe in the assumption that something is
cooking in the development area, when the staff members appear to
be repeatedly biting their tongue to avoid the "non vapourware"
policy, its because there IS something going on.

The lack of hype is a good thing in that no-one builds on assumptions
that cannot be realised when a release is made. This keeps the
capacity predictable. The current version is a generally tidy and
powerful compiler and the few known bugs have well known work arounds
so there seems to be very little that cannot be done with it.

Now it must be a genuinely serious matter when Lance smiles that hard.

Regards,

[email protected]

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[Lance Edmonds]

[Paul Dwyer]

Are you a beta tester Lance?

Thought I might head over to the land of the drunken tiki for a couple of beers, a lamb chop and a chat




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Paul Dwyer
Network Engineer
Aussie in Tokyo

[Lance Edmonds]

Niraj,

Thank you for your keen interest in PowerBASIC, we appreciate it!

In case you are not aware, PowerBASIC operate a "no-vaporware" policy that prohibits PB staff from discussing unreleased products or release dates. What I can tell you is that R&D are working flat-out on new stuff... (sometimes they are even allowed outside for a few minutes to see if they recognize what the Sun looks like! )

So please don't panic or worry... R&D are working to incorporate a lot of new features into the compiler range, and a large number of these features have come directly from customer suggestions. Some of these features involve a large amount of work to make them super fast and easy for you (our customers) to use.

I can also tell you that the minute something is ready to be released (and ordered!), we will be announcing it right here on the BBS and on our web site.

So please stay tuned! We think you'll like what is being developed!

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Lance
PowerBASIC Support
mailto:[email protected][email protected]</A>

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Do you really prefer something like that guys release a lot of Operating Systems per year?
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No Aldo, I dont prefer guys that release lots of Operating systems a year, but yes I do prefer to have bug fixes, extra featurs and more power and more ease to use from time to time.

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What do you mean? Another language? (all the source code to translate...) or another Basic Compiler (if you do find something better than PowerBasic, tell me...).
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You got it right there, I dont want to ask myself the same question after lots of my projects are finished in the Power Basic.
When you make any investment you always like to know where the company is going and what will be there in the future. Misguided information or no information at all will stop lots of people making any investments.

I do like PB very much but that very same thing is stoping me from putting more investment into it.
I would like PB to grow as a full grown development environment and not just as utility development or as a supporting tool for VB.

Hope you get the point here.

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Niraj Bhatt

[Aldo Cavini]

Its been more than 2 years...

Do you really prefer something like that guys release a lot of Operating Systems per year?

somewher else???

What do you mean? Another language? (all the source code to translate...) or another Basic Compiler (if you do find something better than PowerBasic, tell me...).

I sometimes discuss on this forums about wishes and bugs. Nevertheless, I can do whatever I want with this compiler. I constantly read what is posted in the forums, and I see a lot of guys do whatever they want too...

Of course I'm waiting for a newer compiler version - I hope it will be even better than the one I have - But really I won't start programming in other language.

Regards


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