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  • #21
    Probably the main thing going for Winhelp format help files is
    that they are efficient in size, can do most things and can be
    easily setup from a program to run context sensitive help.

    I agree with Tom about going directly to HTML files rather than
    use compiled CHM as they are far too big and slow in comparison
    to the Winhelp format.

    Regards,

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    • #22
      Fellows,

      Apart from the 'what is the best software' discussion: would someone be so kind to explain how to create a compilable RTF file?
      I mean: what elements should it contain?
      Can someone post (or send by e-mail) a tiny example?

      Thanks a lot.

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      • #23
        Ages ago I found some templates at www.helpmaster.com and used those to get started with... the template is a little to complex to describe here, but I also found some great help files at that site, and these can tell you a lot about embedding bitmaps (tip: don't paste a bitmap into a RTF document if you want to create a .HLP file - use the "{bmc filename.bmp}" tag in your text instead).

        While a WINHELP file is created in RTF, the word processor must be able to support double-underline, such as Word 97, etc, but not WordPad.

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        • #24
          If you use MS word, http://userpages.umbc.edu/~yborod1/borhelp.html
          is a big help.

          It's listed at http://www.helpmaster.com

          To write from scratch, the helpfile that comes with Microsofts "Help Workshop" is the best reference I found.

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          • #25
            Thx for all your input. I finally got it done with HelpScribble.
            It has a few bugs (like not really erasing "windows" other than main,
            but in general very compatible. Both Oasis products had bugs,
            and threw exceptions a few times, the HelpMaster was a ridiculously
            large install that required a reboot. MShelp was too much reading
            for me, I wanted fiddle and go type deal.

            I figured it out by decoding a winzip help file and then ****ing
            the .hpj and .rtf files into each of the programs. Some had problems
            with that, but HelpScribble was fine with it.

            It is a little funky in how it handles liks etc but i got there.

            I will check out Samaritan.

            Robohelp seems to be the king and will allow the use of Dlls to make those
            nice tree structures like in PBDLL60.HLP, but I didnt even d/l the
            70mb installer.

            Thx for the very usefull discussion

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            • #26
              Once I was able to get a simple rtf file made with the use of
              HelpMake and looking at several others, I know edit them with
              the DOS editor for changes. That includes the cnt files and
              I even needed to edit the project file (for help studio) in
              order to get a "window" in it. (I know the H-studio says dont
              modify the project file but i did ok with it. -- it was something
              i couldn't get the H-studio to do).



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              • #27
                Egbert,
                I went to the Helpmaster site ans found a
                Help File Decompiler called: HELPDECO (freeware)

                It works great. It's a very good learning tool to
                view the way help files are put together. I de-compiled
                2 or 3 misc. help files and the program did exactly what it
                states. It produces a Word 97 (.doc) file, that shows all the
                necessary control codes. I made a few modifications and
                re-compiled them with Microsoft's Help Compiler.

                This makes building Help files, very, very easy.

                visit: http://www.helpmaster.com/zip/helpdc21.zip

                HTH,
                --Bob

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                • #28
                  Bob,

                  I do have the Help Decompiler, but it makes no sense to me. It decompiles a help file into an .RTF document and an .HJP file.
                  In the .RTF document I see double underlined lines plus some meaningless characters. My problem is, how to create such a file from scratch?
                  Microsoft's HCW help file is not a great help in this respect.

                  Thanks for all your efforts, folks.

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                  • #29
                    Hi Folks,

                    After reading a lot and decompiling several existing .HLP-files, things become a little more clear now.
                    I think, I'll learn this 'trick' over the weekend.

                    At this moment I've one question left: is it possible to use special characters in the copyright section of the compiler? Such as the copyright sign and carriage return/line feed (in order to see more lines when clicking the version tab of the help menu).
                    Microsoft's own part of version info contains 3 lines and shows up with the copyright sign.


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                    • #30
                      You can paste in almost any text into the copyright fiels, including the "©" symbol, etc.

                      The field can contain up to 255 chars (127 for DCBS). It does not permit embedded newline characters like "\n", etc.

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                      • #31
                        You can paste in almost any text into the copyright field, including the "©" symbol, etc.

                        The field can contain up to 255 chars (127 for DCBS). It does not permit embedded newline characters like "\n", etc.

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                        • #32
                          And on that note, this thread is closed due to it's rather large size...

                          If further discussions on this topic are warranted, please start a new thread and include a link to this thread in the first message.

                          Thanks!



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