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  • Lance Edmonds
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    And on that note, this thread is closed due to it's rather large size...

    If further discussions on this topic are warranted, please start a new thread and include a link to this thread in the first message.

    Thanks!



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  • Lance Edmonds
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    You can paste in almost any text into the copyright field, including the "©" symbol, etc.

    The field can contain up to 255 chars (127 for DCBS). It does not permit embedded newline characters like "\n", etc.

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  • Lance Edmonds
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    You can paste in almost any text into the copyright fiels, including the "©" symbol, etc.

    The field can contain up to 255 chars (127 for DCBS). It does not permit embedded newline characters like "\n", etc.

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  • Egbert Zijlema
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    Hi Folks,

    After reading a lot and decompiling several existing .HLP-files, things become a little more clear now.
    I think, I'll learn this 'trick' over the weekend.

    At this moment I've one question left: is it possible to use special characters in the copyright section of the compiler? Such as the copyright sign and carriage return/line feed (in order to see more lines when clicking the version tab of the help menu).
    Microsoft's own part of version info contains 3 lines and shows up with the copyright sign.


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  • Egbert Zijlema
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    Bob,

    I do have the Help Decompiler, but it makes no sense to me. It decompiles a help file into an .RTF document and an .HJP file.
    In the .RTF document I see double underlined lines plus some meaningless characters. My problem is, how to create such a file from scratch?
    Microsoft's HCW help file is not a great help in this respect.

    Thanks for all your efforts, folks.

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  • Bob Houle
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    Egbert,
    I went to the Helpmaster site ans found a
    Help File Decompiler called: HELPDECO (freeware)

    It works great. It's a very good learning tool to
    view the way help files are put together. I de-compiled
    2 or 3 misc. help files and the program did exactly what it
    states. It produces a Word 97 (.doc) file, that shows all the
    necessary control codes. I made a few modifications and
    re-compiled them with Microsoft's Help Compiler.

    This makes building Help files, very, very easy.

    visit: http://www.helpmaster.com/zip/helpdc21.zip

    HTH,
    --Bob

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  • Fred Buffington
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    Once I was able to get a simple rtf file made with the use of
    HelpMake and looking at several others, I know edit them with
    the DOS editor for changes. That includes the cnt files and
    I even needed to edit the project file (for help studio) in
    order to get a "window" in it. (I know the H-studio says dont
    modify the project file but i did ok with it. -- it was something
    i couldn't get the H-studio to do).



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  • Mike Trader
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    Thx for all your input. I finally got it done with HelpScribble.
    It has a few bugs (like not really erasing "windows" other than main,
    but in general very compatible. Both Oasis products had bugs,
    and threw exceptions a few times, the HelpMaster was a ridiculously
    large install that required a reboot. MShelp was too much reading
    for me, I wanted fiddle and go type deal.

    I figured it out by decoding a winzip help file and then ****ing
    the .hpj and .rtf files into each of the programs. Some had problems
    with that, but HelpScribble was fine with it.

    It is a little funky in how it handles liks etc but i got there.

    I will check out Samaritan.

    Robohelp seems to be the king and will allow the use of Dlls to make those
    nice tree structures like in PBDLL60.HLP, but I didnt even d/l the
    70mb installer.

    Thx for the very usefull discussion

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  • Peter Scheutz
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    If you use MS word, http://userpages.umbc.edu/~yborod1/borhelp.html
    is a big help.

    It's listed at http://www.helpmaster.com

    To write from scratch, the helpfile that comes with Microsofts "Help Workshop" is the best reference I found.

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  • Lance Edmonds
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    Ages ago I found some templates at www.helpmaster.com and used those to get started with... the template is a little to complex to describe here, but I also found some great help files at that site, and these can tell you a lot about embedding bitmaps (tip: don't paste a bitmap into a RTF document if you want to create a .HLP file - use the "{bmc filename.bmp}" tag in your text instead).

    While a WINHELP file is created in RTF, the word processor must be able to support double-underline, such as Word 97, etc, but not WordPad.

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  • Egbert Zijlema
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    Fellows,

    Apart from the 'what is the best software' discussion: would someone be so kind to explain how to create a compilable RTF file?
    I mean: what elements should it contain?
    Can someone post (or send by e-mail) a tiny example?

    Thanks a lot.

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  • Steve Hutchesson
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    Probably the main thing going for Winhelp format help files is
    that they are efficient in size, can do most things and can be
    easily setup from a program to run context sensitive help.

    I agree with Tom about going directly to HTML files rather than
    use compiled CHM as they are far too big and slow in comparison
    to the Winhelp format.

    Regards,

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  • Troy King
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    I'm a fan of Samaritan. I've used literally a dozen different help editors, and have to say I like this one the best. It's also cheap .

    http://www.e-netronix.com/en/products/samaritan.shtml



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  • Iain Johnstone
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    Mike
    I use an older programmer, especially for older programmers, called
    Helpgen from Rimrock Software - somewhere on the west coast of the USA.
    The full version was only $30 US, which was very good when the £ was high
    against the $

    Iain Johnstone

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  • Tom Hanlin
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    As far as Microsoft's concerned, "HTML Help". At this point, though, it
    seems to me that you can get a lot more bang for your buck by skipping
    Microsoft entirely and just going with genuine HTML files. They're simple,
    they're portable, and there's a vast selection of tools available for
    manipulating 'em.

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  • Mike Trader
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    Tom,

    What has replaced .HLP files?


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  • Edwin Knoppert
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    I find plain helpfiles techically speaking the best!
    You can do almost anything with .hlp files.
    Even making use of DLL's like robohelp does.
    And resources attached.

    Frankly, it's a neater system than htmlhelp (technically speaking).

    The easy to use browse for topic is something i choose to use html help.
    I don't need to build a main topic with links now.


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  • Tom Hanlin
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    The PowerBASIC Windows help files were generated with the assistance of RoboHelp--
    as Lance notes, not an entirely pleasing tool, although I personally find it
    preferable to the alternatives. Then again, it's been a few years since I've
    examined such utilities. Then again again, .HLP files have been nominally obsolete
    for some years, so it's probably not a lively market.

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  • Ian Cairns
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    If the Contents file <helpFile.cnt> is in the same directory
    as the Help file <helpFile.hlp> then it should open on the
    Contents page when double-clicked.

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  • Mike Trader
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    Ian,

    thx for that tip.
    I am actually just talking about when you launch it by double clicking on it.
    It seems that to get it go straight to displaying the Contents
    and not the "select topic to display" is a problem.

    Al WinZips files do it. Most PB files do it (how were they created guys?)
    I am now in the process of checking out every dome I can get my hadns on till I
    find one that will do this. It seems obvious to me but what do i know

    Lance
    RoboHelp is 70MB!!
    I wont be demoing that today

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