Announcement

**Borje Hagsten** · 8 Sep 2001, 12:06 AM

Just looked at my site logs. 82 downloads of above file in a few hours.
PBcards package, now a total of 412 downloads. RRButton control, 261
downloads in a few days. Obviously a big need for custom controls, so
question stands - why don't more people do them?

Advantage of custom controls: once done, instantly ready for use in next
project. A few hours now and then on one can mean lots of saved time in
the future and also give you the chance to add that little extra to your
program. You know, the part that makes our PB programs stand out among
all the industry-click&drag "programmed" VB/Delphi/VC++ stuff.

There are many left to be done. Don't think we can have enough of buttons,
labels, led controls, ownerdrawn lists of all sorts, editors, grid controls,
statistical controls, whatever.

I for one will keep on doing them. Have a bunch here I will clean up and post
in a near future, but would be fun to see more, from other minds than my own,
stricktly limited one too..

BTW, the Pyramid card game I "un-oficially" told you about in PBcards thread
has already been downloaded 346 times. Makes me feel there is a big market for
PB games - at least in the PB community, but think the tiny download size we
can produce can be a big hit outside these "walls". 60KB for a complete, zipped
stand-alone card game? People will love it, I'm sure..

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**Brad D Byrne** · 8 Sep 2001, 12:44 AM

Borje,

I see your not getting much feedback, but I've looked
at almost all your controls, and I really appreciate
your postings, they've helped me a lot!!! Thank You, B

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**Edwin Knoppert** · 8 Sep 2001, 01:38 AM

Borje,

Forget the feedback

I'm also wondering, Borland has such great controls.
All in VCL style, a simple wrapper and make it a DLL and every programming language could benefit.
We know there are c programmers here but none has shown such a DLL yet.

??

PS, i do have pretty much downloads on the controls i make even if it's an update (but no FB as you already know)
Maybe people just don't neeed them, i think we make it to easy on them with these links.
"Well ehh let's see then"

And might be removed afterwards..
Therefore hard to know if it's in use.

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**Borje Hagsten** · 8 Sep 2001, 01:50 AM

No worries, mate. Sharing code is always an un-grateful job, but when
I look at my download stats, I see lots of people at least look at it.
That's life. I have spoken before audiences of hundreds of people and
when it's time for questions, usually only one or two shows interest,
but the rest still listens eagerly..

My motto is - if so only one person can benefit from what I do, it's worth
doing (and what's worth doing, is always worth doing best way possible..)
Glad to hear it can be of any use..

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**Borje Hagsten** · 8 Sep 2001, 01:59 AM

Edwin - yes, some sort of VCL library would be nice to see in next version
of PB. Maybe one even could start making some money on these little creatures
then.. (he said, greedily drooling all over the keys..)

Could always do DLL's of course, but unfortunately, I'm allergic to those, so..

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**Michael Mattias** · 8 Sep 2001, 04:18 AM

Obviously a big need for custom controls, so
question stands - why don't more people do them?

Like it or not, money drives the development of any product.

Those who might develop custom controls obviously don't see an adequate market in the PB development community.

Brand-M BASIC has what, 100,000 users? 200,000? 500,000? Biggest number I've seen PB acknowledge is "thousands."

And in either case - brand M or brand P - only a small fraction of the total user count would even consider purchasing custom controls.

Brand M comes with a lot of pointy-clicky-dragee-dropee-touchee-feelee stuff: easy to use, no need to buy.

While PB does not come with a lot of this stuff, I'd like to think on balance that those who chose PB rather than brand M have little need for custom controls, 'cuz we are better programmers and can do it ourselves.

(This is obviously not a scientific assessment).

MCM

**Lance Edmonds** · 8 Sep 2001, 04:35 AM

Borje, I think your controls are fantastic, as is your work ethic. Keep it up!!!

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PowerBASIC Support
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**Borje Hagsten** · 8 Sep 2001, 05:16 AM

I will, as I'm sure the few others here who also do this will. Not
everything revolves around money in life. Some things gets done
because it's both fun and rewarding to do them, especially from a
learning point-of-view.

Most programming communities are filled with free samples and extras,
just like here. Difference is very few do it here, which is why I raise
the question - to challenge more to do it. In the end, we all benefit
from such approach, so..

Imagine 50 of us doing just one free custom control each, to be shared
by us all. Imagine how much time each of these controls can save us all,
at some point or another. Imagine how much more powerful this language
would be if that could happen.

Maybe PB inc. could start a competition - write the best free custom control
and win a million dollars.. (or a free upgrade to PB7, whatever is worth most..
Make it a million dollars, and I bet the PB language suddenly would be on
everyone's lips, all over the Internet. Imagine the sales that would emerge
from such a thing..

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**Steve Hutchesson** · 8 Sep 2001, 05:48 AM

Borje,

I have learnt this much with posting freeware, if it works well
you will hear almost nothing and get almost no feedback but if
there are any problems with it, you will get mail bombed. I guess
it says you mave many satisfied users, just keep up the good work.

Regards,

[email protected]

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**Andrew Lindsay** · 8 Sep 2001, 03:48 PM

Borge,

Great work! You have doen a wonderful job. Apart from the Progress Bar, what other custom controls have you written?

Regards

Andrew

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**Henning Wallgren** · 8 Sep 2001, 04:33 PM

Börje,

Just downloaded POFFS2.0 and would like to say thank you for that
and other nice things you come up with. Oh, PBCODEC is valuable
tool.

Thank you.
Henning

btw For a while I've had a folder on my harddrive named:
C:\Download\Borje Hagsten

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Henning

**Paul Squires** · 8 Sep 2001, 05:28 PM

Henning,

Nice coincidence! I have a directory called c:\pbtools\borje !!!

Borje,

I am amazed at the volume of contributions you make to the
PB community - and free at that! Amazing.

Keep up the fabulous work. I'll have to pick up the pace on the
PowerGUI product I'm writing. A nice designer to help use some of
your tools with

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Paul Squires
www.PlanetSquires.com
mailto:[email protected]
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**Russ Srole** · 8 Sep 2001, 11:31 PM

Borje,

Whether you know it or not, you've inspired programmers (at least
this one) with some of your ideas and examples. When I saw your
progress bar in POFFS, I liked it so much I made one using EzGui.
In the proper spirit of things, I posted it on Chris Boss code
forum. Keep it up. I just hope someday to be able to return
the favor.

Russ Srole

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**Borje Hagsten** · 9 Sep 2001, 12:29 AM

Thanks for kind words, and at same time, thanks to whole PB community
for the generous spirit that floats around here. Must be something
in the air..

Andrew, hard to remember all. A Virtual List (updated by Jules), an edit
control, RRButton, PBcards, a bunch of ownerdrawn lists, etc. I'll try
to update/upload my PB webpage later on today.

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**Jules Marchildon** · 9 Sep 2001, 11:40 AM

Borje;

Thanks for the update on this 3D progess control! I came across the same
problem as I did on the first release. The two vertical progress bars
come up short by about 2 pixels when filling up. I mentioned this to you
in a private email with a small screen capture. I am not sure if it is just
my machine, Win98SE/"LCD panel" 1024x768 HighColor(16 Bit) or others have
experienced this?

I simply changed this value in the demo program to correct it...

Code:

  CreatePGBar3D hDlg, %ID_BARLEFT, "", 5, 20, 14, 100, _ '<--was 98, changed(100) to fix gap
                %WS_CHILD OR %WS_VISIBLE, %WS_EX_CLIENTEDGE, 1                 'LEFT BAR, VERTICAL      
...
                                                     
  CreatePGBar3D hDlg, %ID_BARRIGHT, "", 181, 20, 14, 100, _ '<--was 98, changed(100) to fix gap
                %WS_CHILD OR %WS_VISIBLE, %WS_EX_CLIENTEDGE, 1                  'RIGHT BAR, VERTICAL

Regards,
Jules

**Neil Hosgood** · 14 Sep 2001, 03:01 AM

I think if there were a vote for the PB MVM (most valuable member)
then there would be two that would be at the forefront..
Semen & Borje. There help (along with Chris, Jules, Lance and
many many more) makes PB users grow and makes PB itself grow.
How about PB having an anual vote for the MVM and rewarding the
winner as appropriate ?

Just a thought...
NJH.

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**Lance Edmonds** · 14 Sep 2001, 06:13 AM

We thought of it, but decided everyone was a winner because you are all using PowerBASIC!

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PowerBASIC Support
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**Mike Trader** · 16 Sep 2001, 04:22 PM

Borje,

I just got around to looking at the progress bar - Great work!
I really like it and thx for the new Poffs. I use Poffs alot.

I have a question about the progress bar,

I need a progress bar that can change color, and leave a "trail"
of the colors it has been.

So for example if one process is red the next green and the final
process Blue, the final progress bar would have some portion red
then a section of green and finally blue up to the 100% mark.

Can this progress bar do that somehow?

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Kind Regards
Mike

**Borje Hagsten** · 16 Sep 2001, 07:58 PM

Thanks, and sorry - no, because it builds the whole bar first and then
copies part of it as progress proceeds. Once saw something like you
describe done another way - they had placed several shorter progressbars
side by side, one for each process. Actually quite nice, because it gave
you a better impression of speed when progress were slow.

Otherwise one will have to do other way and decide colors as progress
proceeds. Not that hard to do, but means one must use a slightly different
approach, since the bars can't be "pre-made".

To show one way - maybe not possible to use in this case, but still..

Code:

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' Test program for custom control Progressbar include file, PGBAR3D.INC
' This one uses three bars side by side, to show process in three different colors..
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#COMPILE EXE
#INCLUDE "WIN32API.INC"
#INCLUDE "PGBAR3D.INC"  '<- Progressbar include file
 
%ID_BUTNSTART   = 101
%ID_BUTNREVERSE = 102
%ID_OPTFAST     = 120
%ID_OPTSLOW     = 121
%ID_BAR1        = 202
%ID_BAR2        = 203
%ID_BAR3        = 204
 
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' Main dialog callback procedure
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CALLBACK FUNCTION DlgMainProc
  LOCAL I AS LONG, txt AS STRING
  STATIC slow AS LONG
 
  SELECT CASE CBMSG
     CASE %WM_COMMAND
        SELECT CASE CBCTL
           CASE %ID_BUTNSTART
              CONTROL GET CHECK CBHNDL, %ID_OPTSLOW TO slow   '<- check settings for slow/fast
              CONTROL DISABLE CBHNDL, %ID_BUTNSTART      '<- disable start button
              FOR I = 1 TO 100
                 IF I < 34 THEN
                    CONTROL SEND CBHNDL, %ID_BAR1, %PGB_STEPUP, 0, 0
                 ELSEIF I < 67 THEN
                    CONTROL SEND CBHNDL, %ID_BAR2, %PGB_STEPUP, 0, 0
                 ELSE
                    CONTROL SEND CBHNDL, %ID_BAR3, %PGB_STEPUP, 0, 0
                 END IF
                 txt = FORMAT$(I) + "%"
                 CONTROL SEND CBHNDL, %ID_BAR2, %PGB_SETTXTBKG, STRPTR(txt), 1
                 CONTROL SEND CBHNDL, %ID_BAR2, %PGB_SETTXTBAR, STRPTR(txt), 1
                 IF I MOD 2 = 0 THEN DIALOG DOEVENTS
                 IF slow THEN SLEEP 40                '<- if "slow" has been selected
              NEXT
              CONTROL ENABLE CBHNDL, %ID_BUTNREVERSE     '<- enable reverse button
 
           CASE %ID_BUTNREVERSE
              CONTROL DISABLE CBHNDL, %ID_BUTNREVERSE
              FOR I = 99 TO 0 STEP - 1
                 IF I > 66 THEN
                    CONTROL SEND CBHNDL, %ID_BAR3, %PGB_STEPDN, 0, 0
                 ELSEIF I > 33 THEN
                    CONTROL SEND CBHNDL, %ID_BAR2, %PGB_STEPDN, 0, 0
                 ELSE
                    CONTROL SEND CBHNDL, %ID_BAR1, %PGB_STEPDN, 0, 0
                 END IF
                 txt = FORMAT$(I) + "%"
                 CONTROL SEND CBHNDL, %ID_BAR2, %PGB_SETTXTBKG, STRPTR(txt), 1
                 CONTROL SEND CBHNDL, %ID_BAR2, %PGB_SETTXTBAR, STRPTR(txt), 1
                 IF I MOD 2 = 0 THEN DIALOG DOEVENTS
                 IF slow THEN SLEEP 40   'if "slow" has been selected
              NEXT
              CONTROL ENABLE CBHNDL, %ID_BUTNSTART
 
           CASE %ID_OPTSLOW, %ID_OPTFAST
              CONTROL GET CHECK CBHNDL, %ID_OPTSLOW TO slow  '<- set slow/fast mode
 
        END SELECT
 
     CASE %WM_PALETTECHANGED
        'if in 256 color mode, switching between app's with different palettes
        'can cause weird results. Trapping %WM_PALETTECHANGED and redrawing
        'entire dialog helps some. Maybe not the best solution, but..
        IF CBWPARAM <> CBHNDL THEN
           RedrawWindow CBHNDL, ByVal 0, ByVal 0, %RDW_INVALIDATE OR %RDW_UPDATENOW
        END IF
 
  END SELECT
END FUNCTION
 
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' Start point - build dialog, controls and set some initial data
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FUNCTION PBMAIN () AS LONG
  LOCAL hDlg AS LONG
  DIALOG NEW 0, "PGBAR3D trippel-bar demo", ,, 190, 70, %WS_CAPTION OR %WS_SYSMENU TO hDlg
 
  CONTROL ADD BUTTON,   hDlg, %ID_BUTNSTART,   "Start",      100, 52, 75, 14
  CONTROL ADD BUTTON,   hDlg, %ID_BUTNREVERSE, "Reverse",     25, 52, 75, 14
  CONTROL ADD OPTION,   hDlg, %ID_OPTFAST,     "Fast",        30, 28, 40, 10
  CONTROL ADD OPTION,   hDlg, %ID_OPTSLOW,     "Slow",        30, 38, 40, 10
  CONTROL SET CHECK     hDlg, %ID_OPTFAST, 1
  CONTROL DISABLE hDlg, %ID_BUTNREVERSE
 
  CONTROL ADD LABEL, hDlg, -1, "", 5, 5, 180, 14, 0, %WS_EX_CLIENTEDGE
 
  CreatePGBar3D hDlg, %ID_BAR1, "", 6, 6, 59, 12, _
                %WS_CHILD OR %WS_VISIBLE, 0, 1                                  'BAR1
        CONTROL SEND hDlg, %ID_BAR1, %PGB_SETMAX, 33, 0                         'max number of steps
        CONTROL SEND hDlg, %ID_BAR1, %PGB_SETBARCOL, %PGB_RED, 0                'bar color scheme
        CONTROL SEND hDlg, %ID_BAR1, %PGB_SETCOLBKG, GetSysColor(%COLOR_3DFACE), 0 'background color
 
  CreatePGBar3D hDlg, %ID_BAR2, "", 65, 6, 59, 12, _
                %WS_CHILD OR %WS_VISIBLE, 0, 1                                  'BAR2
        CONTROL SEND hDlg, %ID_BAR2, %PGB_SETMAX, 33, 0                         'max number of steps
        CONTROL SEND hDlg, %ID_BAR2, %PGB_SETBARCOL, %PGB_BLUE, 0               'bar color scheme
        CONTROL SEND hDlg, %ID_BAR2, %PGB_SETTXTON, 0, 2                        'show own text
        CONTROL SEND hDlg, %ID_BAR2, %PGB_SETTXTCOLBKG, RGB(0,0,128), 0         'backgound text color
        CONTROL SEND hDlg, %ID_BAR2, %PGB_SETTXTCOLBAR, RGB(255,255,0), 0       'bar text color
        CONTROL SEND hDlg, %ID_BAR2, %PGB_SETCOLBKG, GetSysColor(%COLOR_3DFACE), 0 'background color
 
  CreatePGBar3D hDlg, %ID_BAR3, "", 124, 6, 60, 12, _
                %WS_CHILD OR %WS_VISIBLE, 0, 1                                   'BAR3
        CONTROL SEND hDlg, %ID_BAR3, %PGB_SETMAX, 33, 0                          'max number of steps
        CONTROL SEND hDlg, %ID_BAR3, %PGB_SETBARCOL, %PGB_GREEN, 0               'bar color scheme
        CONTROL SEND hDlg, %ID_BAR3, %PGB_SETCOLBKG, GetSysColor(%COLOR_3DFACE), 0 'background color
 
  CONTROL SEND hDlg, %ID_BAR1, %PGB_BUILDBARS, 0, 0   'finally, build the bars - IMPORTANT!
  CONTROL SEND hDlg, %ID_BAR2, %PGB_BUILDBARS, 0, 0
  CONTROL SEND hDlg, %ID_BAR3, %PGB_BUILDBARS, 0, 0
 
  DIALOG SHOW MODAL hDlg, CALL DlgMainProc
END FUNCTION

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