A list of ALL 3rd-party PB editors

[Wayne Diamond]

pbedit.exe works fine for me for all my current PB needs, as does notepad.exe for all my current text file needs
But I know there are a lot of various editors out there (note - not GUI designers, but code editors) - I just don't know where they are!
So if you know of any PB code editors that might give pbedit.exe a run for its money, please post its URL to this thread
Many thanks in advance



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[Gary Stout]

www.planetsquires.com/jellyfishpro.htm

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[Gary Stout]

www.planetsquires.com/jellyfishpro.htm

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[Mark Newman]

UltraEdit
www.ultraedit.com


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[John Fitz]

I use Edit Plus for all my HTML, vbs and asp stuff. I'm new to PB but it seems like it might work here as well.

Its a great litle editor, cheap (30 bucks) and can be configured for any type of specialized editing.
http://www.editplus.com

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[Wayne Diamond]

Sorry, i didnt mention, but Im not interested in text editors (such as Ultraedit, as fine as it is!) -- I'm only interested in PB-specific code editors in this thread

Jellyfish sounds excellent and I look forward to trying it tomorrow. Do you know if it has API tooltip popups like VB?
For example, in Visual Basic when i type in a call to a function (such as an API call or a local Sub/Function) it'll display a popup tooltip text of the function, making it easy to see what parameters i need to specify. This is one of the best features I like in VB as it helps save a lot of time, so I'd love to see it (more than any other feature) in a PB code editor!

I know I'm being greedy and asking for too much, but I have waited for Christmas to ask for this



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[Wayne Diamond]

Just one other question about Jellyfish. It supports both PBCC, PBDLL/PBWIN, and PBDOS (which is great because I proudly own all three!), but how does Jellyfish know what compiler to use for any given .bas file?



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[Douglas C. Horner]

Wayne

I as far as I know JPro does have codetips. I use EZ_GUI and Chris has developed a codetip file for JPro.
Although I'm not a JPro user.

Doug

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[Ariel Benzakein]

Until last week I thought PBEDIT was enough... but Jellyfish,
especially when combined with Lynx project explorer, is just
awesome!

[Paul Squires]

Originally posted by Wayne Diamond:
Just one other question about Jellyfish. It supports both PBCC, PBDLL/PBWIN, and PBDOS (which is great because I proudly own all three!), but how does Jellyfish know what compiler to use for any given .bas file?

Hi Wayne, anything you need to know please feel free to ask. I'll
do my best to point you in the right direction.

There are two ways that JellyFish knows what compiler to use. The
first way is through the user actually setting the compiler in
the "Set Compiler Defaults" dialog.

The second way is to embed a preprocessor command in your source
code. JellyFish detects these and will switch to the compiler
specified.

Examples:
' JPRO_COMPILER = PB/WIN
' JPRO_COMPILER = PB/DLL
' JPRO_COMPILER = PB/CC
' JPRO_COMPILER = PB/DOS



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[Don Dickinson]

Ultra edit ... i am anxious to try jelly fish ... maybe someday, but it takes too darn long to get used to a new editor

--don

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[Paul Dwyer]

Took me about an hour

PBedit doesn't have a lot of features so you can use JFPRO pretty much the same way at first then get used to what features are in the right click menu over time. If you weren't a big fan of the PBEdit debugger (or preferred to use the PB debugging code options) then the transition will be very easy.

Took me a little longer to get used to Lynx but then I had never used soomething like that before and it works more for you if you spend more time customising it.

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[Wayne Diamond]

If you weren't a big fan of the PBEdit debugger (or preferred to use the PB debugging code options) then the transition will be very easy.

That brings up another question - what debug capabilities does JellyFish (and the other editors) have? ie. do they have their own, or uses pbedit.exe's built-in one, or ... ?

Thanks,
Wayne



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[Paul Dwyer]

Wayne,

Don't know. I don't think there is any built in debugger. JFPro supports plugins though so perhaps someone has written one...



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[Don Ewald]

Greetings!

I've been using Jellyfish for quite some time and I love it.

The second way is to embed a preprocessor command in your source code. JellyFish detects these and will switch to the compiler specified.

...I had no idea that this functionality was there! And to think it's been there since the March 19, 2003 Version 1.12 update. I guess I need to peruse the 'changes.txt' file for anything else I might've missed.


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[Paul Squires]

Originally posted by Don Ewald:

...I had no idea that this functionality was there! And to think it's been there since the March 19, 2003 Version 1.12 update. I guess I need to peruse the 'changes.txt' file for anything else I might've missed.

...and that reminds me - I have to update the Help file!


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Cheetah Database System - "Nothing runs like a Cheetah"
JellyFish Pro Editor - "Custom code editor for PowerBasic"
www.planetsquires.com
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[Paul Squires]

Wayne,

JellyFish does not have a debugger, nor can it call PB's
debugger because the debugger appears to be bundled with the
PB Editor and there is no separate command line options to
allow for calling the debugger by itself.



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www.planetsquires.com
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[Wayne Diamond]

Ok, over the Christmas holidays I will write a PB Debugger. I think I will call it ... PBDebug !



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[Wayne Diamond]

Btw, I just tried out the codetips/intellisense - great work! That's exactly what I was hoping for
But:
1) It only seems to work with PB functions, not API functions? I need it more for API functions than PB ones
2) It'd be good if there was a leading and trailing space on it to make the first and last letter easier to see (VB does this)
Ta!



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[Paul Dwyer]

Wayne,

Check the help files, there is a tool I think you need to run over your win32api.inc file to create a tips text file then it will work. I know what you are trying to do is doable but I can't remember how. I believe that there's a tool included to help you (View Menu -> CodeTip Builder)

Looking forward to your debugger!!!!! If you take feature requests and can get it running with JFPro my wallet starts to open!!! but not too far

If you like Jfpro, perhaps Mr Squires will help you integrate. (and give you a plug to his customer list)

In future rather than people raving about "JFPro & Lynx" it will be the "JFPro, Lynx and WDBug" You can keep my idea for the name at no charge

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Network Engineer
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