zXref

[Patrice Terrier]

A new version of the zXref utility has been posted on José Roca's forum.

This version should solved the problem of missing include path in source code.

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[Patrice Terrier]

The combo version (mixing XREF + CODE SHAVER) is available for SDK coders.

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[Patrice Terrier]

Version 1.06

[Roger Garstang]

Sounds interesting, but I must have registered with a login I never used before and/or an old email address. If I remember it took some time because it needed approved by admin and everything else. Any chance on getting this stuff posted in a Real Physical Location? Searching forum posts for attachments all the time is stupid and a big waste of time...especially when all locked down and wanting you to register to do anything. I spend enough time trying to find ROM updates for my phone on forums. Seems kind of odd posting in one forum for files in another forum too. That would be like PB posting a message on another forum to come get the latest version of their compilers and to look at them you have to register and log on to their forum first.

[Patrice Terrier]

There is a dedicated forum for it, that's the reason why.

And there are no limitations in the size of pictures nor in the total size of ZIP files i can post there, because i have my own section, something not possible here.

As soon as the final version will be available, it will be posted here too, but currently it is still a work in progress.

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[Bob Zale]

And there are no limitations in the size of pictures nor in the total size of ZIP files i can post there, because i have my own section, something not possible here.

We really should clarify this so the folks aren't misinformed. We wouldn't want anyone else to avoid posting here, too. Your thread on Jose's forum contains no pictures at all, so that's not a problem. And the ZIP file you posted is around 92 K is size. The attachment limit here in the PowerBASIC Forums is a whopping 95 MB. You'd have quite a bit of room for growth, I think.

Best regards,

Bob Zale

[Patrice Terrier]

When posting in my zXref section, i am able to delete previous zip file when they become obsolete, i am also able to edit my previous post in the long run, and to keep things under my control, something i can't do here.

When i was speaking about limitations, i was thinking to all my other threads hosted on José's forum, where i have posted many large screen shots (larger than 800x600).

For example, i have attached a screen-shot that i had to resize to keep within the 800x600 limit.

People must not take my personnal case as a general rule, because i am one of the very few, with administrator privileges on José Roca's forum.

Perhaps i should post here only when the final version will be released.

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[David Roberts]

> Perhaps i should post here only when the final version will be released.

Patrice, keep posting as you did with version 1.06. I have a a bookmark in Firefox straight to zXref's first page. Firefox remembers my login details. I'm in and out like a ferret down a rabbit hole. No problem.

At the moment the combo is adding functions that I'm not using but I'm sure you are aware of that. An up to date inclean will be magic as far as I'm concerned.

[Patrice Terrier]

the combo is adding functions that I'm not using but I'm sure you are aware of that

Yes, i am aware of that.

I am currently trying a new approach with another one, named zClean.bas, however the parsing of a PB9 source code is getting much more complex than when Börje wrote Inclean, because now the only keyword forbidden as a member of a TYPE or UNION is END.

And this envolves lot of recursivity and multi-pass to catch all the cases.


Of course most of these cases are already resolved by the compiler itself, thus it would be nice if i could find a generic algo that comes close to it...

[José Roca]

If I remember it took some time because it needed approved by admin and everything else.

This, and the use of real names, is on behalf of PowerBASIC, Inc. Pirates, that obviously can't get support here, often come to my forum. I filter as many as I can, and the few that succeed are quickly banned if PowerBASIC, Inc. confirms me that they are not legitimate PowerBASIC users.

I don't think that we need to justify ourselves for having our own forum, but one important reason is that it allows us to keep it up to date and organized.

[Michael Mattias]

most of these [recursing ] cases are already resolved by the compiler itself, thus it would be nice if i could find a generic algo that comes close to it...

I believe that is what is called a "high level language compiler."

PowerBASIC has one of those, but I doubt the guts of their flagship products is going to be posted anywhere, at least not soon.

[Bob Zale]

You certainly don't need to justify having a web site and forums! It's a great idea!

However, when Patrice posts here that the PowerBASIC forums don't offer enough attachment space, we are obliged to tell our friends the facts. Simple as that.

Bob

[José Roca]

It is always good to state the correct facts. What I don't understand is the whining (in Roger's post) about posting here and in another forum. This is what all the other third party addons programmers do, isn't it?

[Patrice Terrier]

but one important reason is that it allows us to keep it up to date and organized

Absolutly

Micheal--

PowerBASIC has one of those, but I doubt the guts of their flagship products is going to be posted anywhere, at least not soon.

You know, like my zTrace utility, i am not doing this work only for myself, and i would rather see people wanting to contribute than anything else

[Roger Garstang]

I wasn't "whining"...shoot, from the posts here it sounds like the whiners started their own forum. So, you send Bob an email every time someone joins your forum and he replies with whether they own PB software? Something doesn't sound right about that. I'd think Bob would not send private information like what software is owned to another party, much less the overhead of doing that. I'm not seeing the gain a "Pirate" would have in forums anyway. Especially since it is still able to be viewed and searched...the main questions have all been asked before.

Plus, as Bob answered the attachments are large and the screenshot looked like the very screen to edit the attachments that wasn't supposed to be possible (Well, at least it used to be possible there). 800x600 images should be plenty too.

Another Forum is fine. Easily accessible and a common place for files is also important though. Most of the others that post with forums also have places to get their files.

I actually would have liked to help on an incLean type project...I was given the source for incLean sometime back and wanted to start something that would work with the current compilers but found it difficult as it sounds you have seen first hand. Some of it really should be done by the compiler as somewhat hinted here too since it is the tool that knows the most about what it is processing.

It has been a while since I visited the forum and at the time it was interesting with the Win API help and Jose's tools. It is nice having another place of reference. I visit the FireFly Forum just as often as here since most of the time here is focused on DDT and there is Win API/FireFly. The problem with more and more forums though is all the logons. There are always gaping security issues in them and passwords stolen...not to mention not knowing how the passwords are stored or if the admin can read them, etc so I have to create special passwords and usernames that have nothing to do with any other passwords for every forum. If I forget passwords for most of my forums I can still get to the files needed...when I can't it is annoying.

[José Roca]

So, you send Bob an email every time someone joins your forum and he replies with whether they own PB software? Something doesn't sound right about that.

I don't send any email to Bob, among other things, because you don't need to be a PB user to be a member of my forum. You know that somebody can be a pirate when he asks for support, and he says that he is using PB, and he is not a PB registered user.

[Patrice Terrier]

I was given the source for incLean sometime back and wanted to start something that would work with the current compilers but found it difficult as it sounds you have seen first hand.

Then if you have the inclean source code, that i don't have, why don't you share it here or there, then it would help me/us not to re-invent the wheel

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[David Roberts]

Careful!

Copyright: Borje Hagsten, 2002-2005
Company: Hagsten&Co
From Help: "inclean is released as Freeware by Borje Hagsten"

[Roger Garstang]

Searched this morning and found the original 2 emails from Borje. It was just after he joined PB since from that email. 1st said no problem he'd get it all together. Next was the email with the files and some help on what functions do what with some hints on where to start tweaking, etc. Couldn't find anything I could use to indicate he said it was ok to give to everyone other than him giving it to me to improve and this would be improving it...not sure how far that would go though (Especially since on the forums people were asking for it and he said only by private email which is how I did it). Where is he these days? It would be good to ask him first.

[Patrice Terrier]

Ok, i am going on, alone.